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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by LostInOC, Jan 27, 2021.

  1. rwrj
    Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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    I'm sorry about your dog. I know how tough that is. Car looks good, though.
     
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  2. Maicobreako
    Joined: Jun 25, 2018
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    There's a TON of ''how-to's'' on you-tube and other sites.

    Dolly work, body filler, sand-80-120-320 , primer, sand -320-400 , 4 coats of paint (watch for runs) , wet sand, 800-1000-1500-2000 , compound, polish, wax.
    I'm wet sanding now, the worst part is sanding thru to the prime and then repainting.
     
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  3. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    9B2D127C-41B5-4223-BD42-71D9D5CBFA07.jpeg 534ADE99-9B16-483A-9A9A-29CD55C98140.jpeg 73D038DF-88E3-4E0D-9B69-43A0F4D5A0C0.jpeg DCB8B8C2-8FE0-477C-971E-78EE205194E8.jpeg E80917F7-5180-4816-8669-663F29CA005B.jpeg Almost time to take a seat. Got the base with pivoting top nearly done. Still need to fab zig zag spring mounts and the back rest.
     
  4. Six Ball
    Joined: Oct 8, 2007
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    Looks good, You'll need every bit of comfort & storage space you can build into it.
     
  5. rusty valley
    Joined: Oct 25, 2014
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    Nice ! I thought we would hear some more from painters...crickets... watch any video's ?
     
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  6. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Just couldn’t stop tonight…
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  7. LostInOC
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  8. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Seat springs came in the mail, so like a squirrel, I zigged.
     
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  9. Dude you are an absolute UNIT! I envy you man, I've got a 31 Roadster in a shed on the side of my house WAITING to be built, but we're expecting our first baby next month so everything's on hold!
     
  10. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Get to work now or it’ll be at least 2 years before you’re off probation!
     
  11. Six Ball
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    R Racer, Get it done in the next month because you'll be working on your kid's stuff for the next 20 years. :eek:

    Those kids will never forget when their dad helped them build a roadster. :rolleyes:

    The seat looks really good. Is that your design? Looking forward to see it finished.
     
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  13. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Those boys come out and play racecar driver just about every day. I figured if the thing has been around this long, what's the worse they could do?

    Yes, the design is my own with a little bit of inspiration from some pictures found on the old googles.
     
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  14. Loving it. Those boys will be our next generation hotroders.
     
  15. Six Ball
    Joined: Oct 8, 2007
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    One of my sons is really into cars and motorcycles like his dad. The other one is smart like his mom. :D
     
  16. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Rear seat hoop bent and welded. Scratching my head on fabbing a hinge or going to the salvage yard. If nothing can be whipped up, I guess there’s no harm in just making the seat back fixed. Thoughts?
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  17. loudbang
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    Slow down a tad and think about that seat back. How often would you need to get behind the seat, what's going back there? If you decided to make it non folding now just because you want to get it done then later realize well crap I guess a folding seat back would have been better. Junkyards are full of seats just slow down and check some out first. :)
     
  18. Six Ball
    Joined: Oct 8, 2007
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    I think that if this is going to be driven you will need to have stuff with you to better assure a return trip. In that case you will want to have access to every inch of space to stash stuff even if it is something you will hopefully never need. I say hinge it. You could design a lot of tool storage within the thickness of the wood framing behind the seat and the seat back it's self.
     
  19. Tribalmonkey
    Joined: Feb 17, 2019
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    LostInOC - Awesome roadster build. Great plan and great work! Following. TM
     
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  20. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
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    One thing I'll mention about painting that I see here. Get it to the stage where you aren't going to bang it out any more (hammer/dolly work), then when you are ready to prime, mask off and shoot the inside, then mask inside and shoot outside. Really nice cars don't have lots of nasty sanding dust and overspray hiding in the interior.
    Look at
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/33-5w-build-thread.1127212/page-16#post-14103085

    This is more materials and more work, but makes for a nicer end product.

    The common and true saying about body/paint is that it is 90% prep and 10% shooting. I'd guess it's closer to 99. Take a 2" square area on the body. You will wipe it down with wax and grease remover, sand, maybe tap out any highs or lows, wipe again, mask, wipe again, prime, sand, (repeat at least one more time for Black), wash, dry, mask, wipe, seal, wipe, then apply paint. Sand, wash, dry, polish, wash, dry, and wax. This did not include any part fitting or other things done during the prep section.
    The "paint" part is less than a day, even with multiple coats.

    Another is that any monkey can shoot a car, a real painter can fix the issues that will crop up.
    I''d also suggest single stage 2 part paint, some practice panels and buying a bit extra for any touch-ups and repairs. Make sure to get and use proper PPE.
     
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  21. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    I could see where a hinged seat back would be very useful. If you had to make a compromise to get things moving, consider making a tube base that the upper half of the seat slid over. One section of tube slides into the other, down at the bottom. So basically instead of hinging forward, you could lift the back of the seat up and off of the tubes. Would make for easy access behind the seat without a hinge mechanism. Just a thought.
     
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  22. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Got the flywheel today. Finally, engine stuff is happening. Had a bbq to celebrate but my night was cut short without flywheel bolts. Still no Thomas head, stock will do for now. The engine will be in this weekend, I promise, maybe. Also, still need to finish the seat back. Lots o pokers, I mean gears, in the fire. P.S. the graphite gasket is temporary. 88A70403-E507-403F-BB17-74ED239A5D58.jpeg 81A4982C-DA2F-4949-9FB8-87EB59A9409B.jpeg EB429AA1-863C-473B-B80E-F48C0E942381.jpeg 881025DC-CA49-4800-806B-D49B428BF5F6.jpeg
     
  23. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Now she looks like a car! Getting the frame spread to get that motor in was a real feat of garage engineering but we got it done. I say we because a nice neighbor stopped by to see what I was up to. 3 hours later and a little swearing, he was fully indoctrinated into the old shit club. I know he’ll never see this but a big thanks to my neighbor Jason for the much needed help getting everything together. There’s still no real date for the radiator to show up and I’m really on the fence about running the old crusty one. Perhaps an aluminum radiator may fit the bill for a while. Anyone have a good source for a decent aluminum radiator that isn’t one of the crap ones you always hear about? 6BDEA055-FB83-4DDB-A336-C295D828F76C.jpeg 035D4CCC-DD4D-430D-B748-D63B510772EB.jpeg 0EB6666D-F972-49B8-B381-D53831AED364.jpeg
     
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  24. Six Ball
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    Cool and ahead of schedule! That is really looking nice.
     
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  25. Dick Stevens
    Joined: Aug 7, 2012
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    Many HAMB members have said that Champion Radiators are good and built in the USA!
    https://www.championradiators.com/
     
  26. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
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    Do yourself a traditional favor...SKIP THE CLEAR...use single stage paint!
    I used plywood for the seat bottom and back, so was able to use a piano hinge. Lots of space back there for storage!
     
  27. LostInOC
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    Got a lot done on the motor and installed the radiator. Problem….I bought a 32 shell that I’m trying to put on. Not sure if I have a 28 or 30 radiator but the shell will not go on without serious modification. I’d love to keep the filler neck in the same position. I keep finding conflicting info regarding shell fitment. What radiator fits best with a 32 shell? What massaging is required?

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  28. brokenspoke
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    Check out the ord Barn Forum, your bearing isue is addressed...
     
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  29. Six Ball
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    Back when there were real radiator shops things were simpler. Real guys with real skills that understood what you wanted.
     
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  30. lamaison
    Joined: Oct 21, 2006
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    Looks like you have a 30-31 radiator. I Don't have any experience mounting a '32 shell on either of the Model A versions, but if reworking the mounting brackets on the radiator doesn't seem feasible the most obvious alternate would be a 1932 4 Cylinder (Model B) one.
     
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