History Anyone recognozize this thing?

This picture was taken in our little hick town about 100 years ago. It ain't a Ford so I can't I.D. it.

 

Heck, I'll take a shot. Best guess....1914-1916 Herff-Brooks touring car. I think the top pic, with the fold-down windshield, is a 14 and the bottom a 16. Let the scrutiny begin.

 

@Joe Blow The grille shell is too round, and the cowl section above the windshield aren't right.

 

I was only 3 years old then so I don't remember.

 

this a tuff one. keep in mind before the great depression there were over two thousand auto makers !

 

Ask @31Dodger. He likes this game and he's good at it.

 

Yeah, that's what I noticed too. Couldn't tell in the second pic if the grill shell was round. There's a little reflection line just above the fender that makes it look squared off to match the hood. The cowl doesn't like right on either. In the top pic the split windshield and struts, headlamps, wheels, front suspension and right hand steering look the same. The car was just made for three years, so probably no reconfiguration on any of it. Oh well, close but no cigar.

 

What is the deal with the guidance circular hand held item being at the passenger seat area? Yes, I know that horse drawn carriages were driven from the right hand side. Yet, I never thought that early USA built vehicles didn't have a set standard.

 

I am figuring it's a Midwest car. I can't find a good picture online, but check out page 41 of Great Cars of the Great Plains> The 1911 Great Smith of Kansas. If it was taken in California why is it in the BY Museum?

 

Mountain, WV was once named Mole Hill but was paid by the Borden Milk Company in 1949 to change it's name. You know the phrase-"Making a Mountain..."?

 

Here's the text that accompanied the picture.

"The whole town turned out to see the new fangled contraption called an auto ,mobile .(the sooner they are outlawed the better off we will be ) Edith Irvine took this photo in Moke Hill in front of Leger Hotel ,( thats her above the rear tire"

How she took the photo from the rear of the car seems a little strange to me.

 

The cowl area looks similar to an older American Body company car. See link about American Body Company : https://buffaloah.com/a/niag/1255/1255.html

 

It is a dodge. Oh, they were still working for Henry then. Not a dodge and not a American Body^^^. Front elliptical spring.

 

Looks like a potential HAMB pre-war "gow job" candidate.

 

10 spoke wheels in the front and 12 spoke in the rear???

 

There was only a hundred or so companies making Autos back then as has been mentioned and it seemed many were right hand drive...toughie...

 

The Axle is wavy and the springs may actually be parallel but the spring is dead straight however that could happen when 36 adults stand on it...

 

I noticed those details as well. The wavy axle should narrow it down.

 

https://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/230171,14373,1/1912-premier-model-4-40_photo.aspx

...this is a 1912 Premier it has many similar Tidbits...

The springs are arched though and the Axle might not have same wave...the space between the hood to lower windshield area is more but that could be angle...the Cowl light is missing a ball on the bottom...maybe a year earlier...there was probably huge near cloning going on back then anybody remember...


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...this pic really has a Hotrod feel to it... utilize the fold down Windshield and fab a top incorporating the upper shield think moon roof...the seating is way high...gotta drop that a foot smaller Dia Piecrusts and Cheaters aka Hotrod lowered...or whatever ones desire...

http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/ot...-hudson-model-33-touring-runs-and-drives.html

This one is a Hudson too...a bit more Driven/barnfind...

The front fenders at the leading edge are a different profile...

Both the Premier and this Hudson have Similar Coach Lights but have Square Front lenses rather than OP Round front...

Tough search...

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I would of guess Macswell.

 

I got it figured out. Seems like a lot of the Autos, even thou there were many different manufactures, looked the same. There were car design SPIES, that would go around selling the same secret designs to all the manufactures!

 

Zoom:

 

It look's like a WHITE motor Car..!

Just my 3.5 cents

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I'll throw my hat in the ring and say Mitchell, circa '10-'12.

 

Mitchell is close, but I'm nearly positive it's a Locomobile circa '11-'13.
Still trying to peg down exactly which model and year, thou.
The large touring models have the larger flatter fenders, but everything else looks right.
The smaller runabout style have the correct swooping fenders, but the cowls seem to be different.
Same wheels, unboxed frame horns that curve down, swoopy I beam axle, round lens lanterns, grill and hood are right.

 

Porter.....

 

Dip in the front axle, 12 spoke/6 clamp wheels, and angled headlamp brackets should narrow it down some

 

Possibly E-M-F? Here is a 1912:

 

Well, the Locomobile was made in Connecticut and the Mitchell in Wisconsin. Figuring the pictured car is roughly 1911-13 vintage and Crocker's fist cross-country trip was in 1903, what's an East Coast or midwest car doing in California? Maybe it's a construct of lots of different cars-a hotrod? There were a lot of cars mad that sourced parts and then assembled them, so this might be one o those brands.