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Technical what vehicles came with a stock drum drum combination brake valve - for booster

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  1. nobby
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    do I take it for granted they have built in 10 ilb residual valves each end
    is there anything to them being power assisted from a booster or not.
    thanks
     
  2. Elcohaulic
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    Elcohaulic

    Only if the booster is lower then the wheel cyls..
     
  3. nobby
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    ahh so i need a 68-72 ish ford brake master cylinder
    1'' with factory brake residual valves in it
    that physically fits a booster, doesn't have the push rod
    and buy a metering block, that isn't a disc/drum combination valve - i.e. it is sans the residual vlave
    someting about swing pedals and pedal ratio - firwal mount v underfloor longer pedal ratio's
    something about self energizing v stock 40 style non energizing
    and not seeing a metering valve on pre 66 vehicles as they don't have them as they are all single circuit.
    dic/drum mc's physically cannnot have 10 ilb valves in them as the fronts would lock,
    hense the invention of the combo valve - metering line pressure front to rear, PLUS rear residual valve

    so to round up, the window of manufacture of vehicles sporting drum brakes and a servo/booster is limited
    IF
    a 66 bronco is front drums single circuit non booster
    a 67 f100 is front drum dual cuircuit unboosted
    a 68 - 72 is front drums boosted
    a 73 is disc front

    so what does a 68-72 ford metering block look like?

    great 76 mopar w200 truck flat bendix booster
    mopar 4 40lt brak master with drum valves
    mopar metering block
     
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  4. H380
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    from Louisiana


  5. TA DAD
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    TA DAD
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    Chrysler A bodies ( 70 Dart ) with 4 wheel drums had a nice distribution block. Something to keep in mind is line sizes could come into play when you start plumbing things up.
     
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  6. Complex modern metering valves came about around 1972 depending on the make. I used to use a simple brass block on older dual master swaps and the cars stopped fine. In my car I have a distribution block from Summit, they run about $70 or so.
     
  7. Roothawg
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  8. Ebbsspeed
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    '67 Charger has dual reservoir master cylinder and power assisted 4 wheel drums. They also had a distribution block with the "unbalanced" switch in it that would turn on an idiot light if one or the circuits had a large pressure differential. At least the factory 383 powered ones did, I don't know if the 440 and Hemi cars did or not.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2020

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