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Technical Bucket T Steering ideas

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by TrueBlue23, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. TrueBlue23
    Joined: Jun 13, 2020
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    TrueBlue23

    Hey folks! I'm nearing the part of my build where I need to make a decision on my steering box. I had originally planned to do the Corvair box on top of the frame rail. But now that I got my motor and tranny mocked up where I want it, it seems as though it may be a little tight between my headers and the frame now. I'm open to any suggestions, I'd just prefer to keep it in the 60's era styling. Any input and pics would be awesome. frame1.png
     
  2. Bill Rinaldi
    Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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    Bill Rinaldi
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    How about a little more info on your needs, the piece that is sticking up doesn't show much detail. What kind of exhaust manifiold, stock, block huggers, "roadster headers"? Where is your steering wheel shaft coming through the firewall? Most 60s types were Corvairs, F1 and F100 boxes, even early Mustang boxes. Plus a lot more. Bill
     
  3. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 5,123

    dana barlow
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    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    A few tips n 2 pic's of ways to stay back a little so motor or headers are not in the way.;;
    Ideas for thought! From cars I built.
    Mock up,should be about ; Adjusting things, engine can if needed be out of center some,header can be mod. Steering box placement is best,if an understanding of a combo ,of min. bump steer, seat/steering wheel pedals=to that point is also what you like? A lot of early "T" had upright steering an others more standard angle. Have some fun,sit in it,with a steering wheel in your hands. Playing the mock up game,is very good use of your time{ big time saved from needed refab. .
    I'm sure you can find a good # of S-box mounts of many types of box's.
    The last one I did with my son "T",we used a Mustang Box below the frame/custom offset pitman arm"UP" so were rod end hooks to it was only a few in. from rear bone end< that kept bump steer very low.
    On my old hot,I mounted box in top of frame,about 1/2 in to firewall,so it was back more then some,an my header don't get near the box. I thought it looked fairly clean that way,with a small body pocket for swing. Also set close too rear bone mount for bump steer control./ 007.JPG 014.JPG
     
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  4. TrueBlue23
    Joined: Jun 13, 2020
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    TrueBlue23

    running lakes style headers. And as far as where the steering shaft comes through, we haven't done that yet. I'm not even opposed to running it up through the floor as long as I can get the right angle.
     

  5. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    Mr48chev
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    It looks like you have plenty of room between the wish bone bracket and the body to put a Mustang (style) steering box behind the bracket and have the sector shaft exit under the frame as the one in this thread https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/mustang-steering-boxes.1107423/ They aren't too spendy, they don't break easily and the pitman arm points up making it easy and simple to have a drag link that runs level or closely matches the angle of the bones.
    With the later boxes that came from rigs that had the column separate from the box you can run a U joint in the shaft and get your column angle a lot closer to where you want it.
     
  6. 2OLD2FAST
    Joined: Feb 3, 2010
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    2OLD2FAST
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    from illinois

    Never cared for the " through the floor " steering , never felt comfortable. The reversed corvair is probably the most popular ,but the aftermarket boxes are reportedly not always good . Vega box with cross steer works well but looks a bit busy with the universal joints , multiple steering shaft sections & support bearings . "good" rebuild able corvair boxes are still out there .
     
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  7. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
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    DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Getting harder to find and possibly will not be considered "traditional" but the VW bus (transporter) steering gear was commonly used, a friend of mine used one in his T- bucket build in the late 60's.
     
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  8. Mimilan
    Joined: Jun 13, 2019
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    Mimilan
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    Better still [and on the same line of thinking]
    Consider a VW Beetle 1302S steering box [it is easier to mount] and works the same as a "reversed" box for a drop pitman arm
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  9. evintho
    Joined: May 28, 2007
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    evintho
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    Definitely not '60s era but this is what I did. Found an '86 Suzuki Samurai at Pick-N-Pull and yanked the whole steering setup. Pitman arm/box/intermediate shaft/U-joints and column. With the U-joints I could center the column and get it in the most desirable/comfortable position. Worked out well.

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  10. I used a chevelle box in cross steer fashion

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  11. TrueBlue23
    Joined: Jun 13, 2020
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    TrueBlue23

    I kinda dig that setup. I'm gonna look more into those. thank you all for replies tonight
     
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