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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. Ryan
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    Ryan submitted a new blog post:

    Perfect Flames

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  2. Umm, that's a hard no for me.
     
  3. Ryan
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    I've learned to never question Lee Pratt on such things.

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  4. The flames on his coupe work for me.
     
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  5. regarding the corvette, maybe in color the blending [?] of the paint would look better.
    basic, simple, childish [?] shaped flames sometimes suit a car. I think I would have to see it in color to judge.
    is the cove body color?
     
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  6. NoSurf
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    I'll have to see if I can remember to check my copy of "Cool Cars Square Roll Bars" if there is a mention of it.

    I'll also ask my Pops if he remembers seeing the car.
     
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  7. When I think about cool flames the Bob McCoy 40 sedan is the standard for flamed paint jobs. HRP

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  8. Automotive Stud
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    The flames are period correct, I'll give them that. A quick google map of Tucker Hill Rd shows a sweet little bend in the middle, and if I was a gambling man I'd wager that's where our friend Mr Avery's incident occurred.
     
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  9. KevKo
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    from Motown

    Rod Powell was the guy that most influenced me. But I like the '60's style (and '70's, shhh!).
     
  10. scrap metal 48
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    I could be wrong but didn't "VON DUTCH" say flames should never cross each other????
     
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  11. Ryan
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  13. BJR
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    Flames on a mini bird is just wrong!
     
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  14. You are right HRP, the McCoy Fordy is the perfect example of flames in my book.
     
  15. While I don't dislike the flames on the McCoy sedan, or Lee's coupe, my go-to cars that pop in my mind for 'perfect flames' would be: Bobby Walden's 46 Sedan "The Spanish Fly" The California Kid, Cal Tanaka's 33 Coupe, McMullen Roadster.. those are my Jam.
     
  16. Budget36
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    I like subtle flames. Now I know it’s not for this forum, but I really like the “fire” Mike LaValle?” Was doing. Really looked right and subtle in my opinion
     
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  17. deathrowdave
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    C5007976-FE4D-4CB1-A98B-B930A23760B0.jpeg Well here is my try at it , baby needed shoes so I tried it .
     
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  18. Budget36
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    That flows real nice.
     
  19. 62SY4
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    I agree with @tb33anda3rd, those flames are crude and remind me of my licks doodled through my school notebooks..

    I grown fond of the early flames with their tendency to be blocky, monotone and raw especially by today's norm.

    If I had to pick a favorite flame job, it's just on the border of HAMB era correctness.. Hollingsworth's '57 Nomad
     
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  20. A great flame job


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  21. Black Panther
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    I'm a Walt Prey kind of guy...

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  22. Corn Fed
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    I vote for the Hollingsworth 57. I love seaweed style flames.
     
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    seaweed flames, pinstripe flames, candy flames, traditional flames, crude early style flames ........ I’m in.

    but those realistic flames, I’m out
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  24. birdman1
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    Looks good, well done
     
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  26. Roothawg
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    I'm with Black Panther.
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  27. Moriarity
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    My buddy Gene Sonnen's 40, Dave Bell did the flames back in 1967, He still has the car with the same paint. wish I had a pic of it all closed up....

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  28. Sculptive Design Co.
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    I'd say this car is right up there next to Bob McCoy's car.
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  29. theHIGHLANDER
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    Flames, motor oil, belted vs radial, "...what's traditional...?," are all pleasant areas of love/hate discussions. Early flames like that Vette and the white coupe that El Cochrandante' posted look like old hot rod comic book stuff. Are they "right" or "perfect" as far as flames go? The owners think so but I'm not a fan. I've done a few on bikes, racers etc. It depends on the client's desire. Wanna do an old look? Go with the 2 mentioned. Move up a little? Well, that 40 Tudor works. A little more? A few tribal hooks and some pearl really gets it done. And we had to advance to true fire, right? There's always been a lotta hate for that, but a lotta love too. Not sure which side wins there, but I have to think the hate comes from bad true fire jobs. The guy doing the work gets lost, sticks with the same template too much, ends up looking like swiss cheese or a burning sponge. I did 3, my 1st on a panel, a bike, and my best bud's hood scoop. What I learned is when to say when and when to switch colors. "Dark to light, loose to tight" was some guidelines I found. I think I like doing them but never wanted a flamed car for myself. Any kind be it old, traditional, tribal, ghost or true. If my pic gets dumped I understand, but from the crudeness above (speaking as an artist) to where we went I feel it's relevant.

    Ok, no pic here. Sorry. I shared them on an art/airbrush site and got a little chapped because most responses were that they were too real and I should have just done a photo wrap. No matter tho,not traditional so I'll stay in the rules after all. Cool topic. Or is it 'kool', I dunno. Oh, HOT topic. That's it. Flames...:cool:
     
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  30. That one is 500 time better than the McCoy flames!
     
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