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Technical Flathead V8 identifikation

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fjant, Oct 10, 2020.

  1. Fjant
    Joined: Mar 17, 2011
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    Hi!
    I just bought my first Ford flathead V8 (a 24 stud pulled from a 39 merc) I have tried to identify the year it’s from and if it have som kind of block name. As I understand I can only know if its a 221 or 239 from measurement of the stroke? But can you tell anything from these casting markings or can I find any other somewhere?

    The casting on top of the bellhousing is very hard to see what it is. I can only see an ”H”. Can you tell anything from the numbers on the heads?

    Thank you!

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    Last edited: Oct 10, 2020
  2. Post pics of the whole engine....we can at least narrow it down. The markings are pretty meaningless.
     
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  3. tubman
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    The difference between a 221 ci and a 239 ci is in the bore, not the stroke. A 221 will have a 3 1/16" bore, while a 239 will have a 3 3/16" bore. One good thing; if you pull a head, it's easier to measure the bore rather than the stroke. (Both have a 3 3/4" stroke.)
     
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  4. Fjant
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    Here you go. Are there any other markings I should look for?

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  5. Fjant
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    Thank you for the clarification. I have found multiple sources that says different things, bore or stroke.
     
  6. tubman
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    Just to keep things straight. Flathead Ford V8 engines (excluding the V8-60 and Lincolns) came in three displacements :

    221 ci ('32-'42 Fords) - 3 1/16" bore X 3 3/4" stroke
    239 ci ('46-'53 Fords, '39-'48 Mercurys). - 3 3/16" bore X 3 3/4" stroke
    255 ci ('49-'53 Mercurys) - 3 3/16" bore X 4" stroke

    There may some rare exceptions (special orders and police cars as well as some trucks).
     
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  7. Fjant
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    Thank you! I guess thats all that matters.


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  8. If it,s out of a Mercury would,nt it be a 99 type engine ? See if there is a 99 forged here at the top of the yellow arrow.
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  9. v8flat44
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    Tubman nailed it and, when you get it running, he makes quality condonsers for that dizzy.
     
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  10. alchemy
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    Not likely it's a 99 block, but probably a regular 39-41 block. Check the sides of the block down low where the pan bolts up to see if it has bulges. Those are the freeze plugs in the pan gasket surface.
     
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  11. Model A Gomez
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    Vanpelt Sales has a lot of good information on flatheads including identification @ www.vanpeltsales.com .
     
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  12. rusty valley
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    6049 is the part number for one head, 6050 for the other side head. i for get which side is which, but then later the 59ab head could be used on either side
     
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