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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ned Ludd, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. Six Ball
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    That is a very nice build. IT'DOFORME! :confused:
     
  2. Stueeee
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    The currently huge sale prices for vintage Austin Sevens like those in that brilliant video clip would make a Ford Model A look very reasonably priced by comparison. Also you can do a fair bit of tuning on a Model A motor without resorting to the billet crank and rods which are pretty well a "must have" for continued reliability in a tuned A7 motor.
     
  3. Ned Ludd
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    Happened upon, as is often the case, in the course of looking for something else, Skinner (as in SU) Morris-Hudson special:
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  4. drtrcrV-8
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    THANK YOU AGAIN !! Ned Ludd, you have some of the most fantastic "posts"!!
     
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  5. Six Ball
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    WOW! Very nice. I'd like to sit more in it though.
     
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  6. Stogy
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  7. Ned Ludd
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  9. We take off tomorrow (May 15th) for a weekend of running (I don't say racing as it looks like I have no competition) at Buttonwilllow Raceway Park, West of Bakersfield California. The'll be 5 of us in the PreWar/Historic Group. Sadly our good friend and competitor. Peter Giddings will not be there. Peter died last year. We'd run together from the West Coast to Indianapolis for over two decades! Many of you know that Peter had a stable of fine European race cars. Below are photos of our last race in 2018!
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  10. Ned Ludd
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    Bunce/Buck Renault Special, 1959:
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    Story here.
     
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  11. motoklas
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    Thank you Dawie,
    For nice photos and interesting article. I supposed that this special must be based on Renault 4CV. There were a few more sports coupés and cabriolets specials based on it. Later famous Alpen Renault started the same way.

    Only this photo of engine confused me a lot: two Stromberg carburettors (that is good) but 6 intake tubes (in three pairs) - on the small four-cylinder engine?
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    Ciao,
    Zoran
     
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  12. motoklas
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    P.S.: Two of them are intake tubes and four of them are exhaust pipes!
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  13. Ned Ludd
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    Those look like SU HS2s.
     
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  14. Stueeee
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    They look like SU H1 carbs to me. The flange at the inlet side is unique to that model AFAIK
     
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  15. chrisp
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    The Renault Billancourt engines have siamese intake ports, they were available in 603cc to 845cc.
     
  16. Ned Ludd
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    Unidentified Australian special, early '50s:
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    Note "fats and skinnies", air under the left front.
     
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  17. Stueeee
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    MG based maybe? does look like it might be a TC screen pillar on that car.
     
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  18. mac miller
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    my new tmd DieselX Special nearing completion powered by 2.8 Cummins turbo diesel ` 99285157_656501614929020_6428535851256381440_o.jpg 99111957_656501704929011_1991245352090468352_o.jpg
     
  19. 48fordnut
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    Specials were some of the first cars I saw as a pre teen. In 1947 my dad would bring magazines home from Greyhound buses that cleaners would pick up and give to him. I don't remember the names of the magazine but I saw these types of specials involved in hill climbs. I guess that was the real start of my car nutitis.
     
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  20. Ned Ludd
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    Rounded "aero" nose also suggests MG specials.
     
  21. gnichols
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  22. 1929_bloody_mary_special_recreation_hillclimb_special_.jpg
     
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  23. Outback
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    An amazing car!
     
  24. 2NDCHANCE
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    Love this thread. thanks for all the great posts. Gary
     
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  25. Stueeee
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    Knew I'd seen the Richard Bolster car before, it appears towards the end of this video clip, appropriately in the paddock for the The John Bolster Cup. This is a race for vintage specials including cyclecars and the like. It's worth watching the whole clip IMO as there are some interesting vehicles as well as Bolster car there.
     
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  26. Kume
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    Love the Hampton radiator. I had one for years thinking I would build a special behind it. Looking at this I now regret selling it.
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  27. banjeaux bob
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    121050396_649592715743304_7769462217128811862_n.jpg Roger Sceaux 3 wheeler
     
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  28. SR100
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    Not sure who I'm responding to, has Old Dawg has typed his reply to GNichols inside GNichols' post?
    There are a couple of misunderstandings here. Neither Richard nor John Bolster spent much time competing in Trials. They originally built Bloody Mary as a field car, just horsing around in their field (or a neighbor's). It didn't take long for them to try their hand at motorsport, primarily hillclimbs.
    British Trials were, and still are, a series of stages on 'unimproved rights of way,' not on grass. Mostly on private land, but occasionally on military reservations, 'unimproved right of way' is a euphemism for paths or trails that are often little more than goat tracks. Bloody Mary has little suspension travel and less ground clearance, two things that a trials competitor needs.
    Part of the confusion is that the British were also fond of 'Speed Trials,' which the Bolsters regularly entered. Speed trials were similar to hillclimbs. Both were time trials, but speed trials often had fewer corners (or none at all) and typically did not feature a significant hill.

    The BaT replica is an odd duck. Most, if not all, of the time that Bloody Mary ran with one engine, it had a different body. They seem to be replicating something that might not ever have existed. In any case, the replica is pretty sterile. The original has a presence that the fake can't come close to:
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    I wonder how the replica handles. As far as the original, well I'll leave the last word to the inimitable John Bolster: "I admit that she’s rather dicey on those tricky straight bits."
     
  29. Ned Ludd
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    It took me a while to figure out the various authorships, too.

    At the very least, it is good that cars like these are getting enough of a profile that people try their hand at working in the idiom. I like to think that I have in some measure been instrumental in bringing that about.

    The cars in the clip Stueeee posted above are really so diametrically opposite in character to the direction automotive performance seems to be going, it is arguably only to be expected. It's a pity the HAMB has only the single like facility; that post was the Seventh Heaven for me.
     
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  30. rivguy
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    Circa-1912-National-Racing-Car-1 - Edited.jpg I've thought that a speedster style special could be built. I was at the Petersen museum a couple of years ago and saw a Stutz Bearcat on display, I was impressed. Perhaps built on an early truck chassis, imagine a vintage straight eight engine. I've thought that I could build one on my '51 Jaguar MarkVII chassis, which has a very sturdy ladder type frame. This is the "feeling" that I would like to evoke.
     
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