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  1. Tim
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    Yeah my original thought was that should I want to add additional heat that this plate would be easy to drill and tap for a fitting and be good to go
     
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  2. Joe H
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    I've also ran with and without heat, heat is much better. Once warm, both run about the same, just took forever to get warm enough to run right. With the exhaust so close, I would try it first as is. It wouldn't take much to add some heat from the headers. I have seen copper tube wrapped around the header tube, then around the base of the carb with vacuum plumbed in one side. It pulled enough heat through the tube to keep the carb base warm, the copper looked pretty cool as well!
     
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  3. Tim
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    @Joe H yeah I bet it would!

    I’m figuring with them basically touching and the hood side being so dang close I’ve got a good chance of it staying warm enough but trying to have an idea for adding heat should I need to.

    really appreciate all your help and input :)
     
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  4. I knew nothing about heat on the intake with my 6 in my '50. When I got it, the intake didn't have heat or a block off plate on the bottom of the Offenhauser intake, running tube manifolds. Not until I started this 261 project did I learn anything about heating the intake, and even then it was by accident as I was on Tom Langdon's website looking at a new carb set up. Reading the tech on his page, I learned just what @Six Ball was saying about the heat keeping the fuel atomized. I ended up getting the plate Tom sells (http://www.langdonsstovebolt.com/st...61-Inlet-Manifold/p/1222049/category=18665950). 12bolt.com offers a similar thing to fit your intake it looks like (https://www.12bolt.com/store/p155/Offenhauser_Heat_Plate.html). Of course, I don't have the motor together yet, so can't report, but if and when the time comes you might consider something like that I guess.

    Also, if'n it was me, I'd put a couple clearance dings in the center tubes just to give a bit of breathing room between the tubes and the intake. It's not touching yet, but don't forget, you've got to bolt the intake tight yet which will take up some space, even with the gasket in there.
     
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    0FA53E49-DFE7-44D7-8F1C-31A3EFA2AB9C.jpeg Zip tied like crazy to take over to my buddies house for tig welding last night. I wasn’t chancing a pot hole messing my day up haha.

    Should have them welded up by tonight or tomorrow. They’ll take a little effort here and there but I’m happy with how they landed so far.

    I’ll need to mock up the collector and trim a few things on the car and then it’ll be a done project after paint which is exciting!
     
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  6. Damn! Those look like you knew what you were doing! Very nice!
     
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  7. Tim
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    It’s all in the angle of the photos haha.
     
  8. Tim
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    Got the 46 back on the road today. Gonna mess with that some while I wait on the header to be finished.

    trying to decide what’s next on the list after I get the header painted, mounted, the intake and carb mounted.

    thinking I’ll get the master cylinder holes in the firewall bumped up to size and get the hood shelves drilled, bolted to the wood and installed.

    then I can mock up the clutch master and latch the hood 100%

    probably find a hand full of little projects to mess with to make it feel like progress after I’ve dicked with this header stuff for so long
     
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  9. Saturday morning Velocity channel has a new episode of Car Fix .. with a blow thru VS57 style supercharger.

    Appears to be a Stude' engine, but I could be mistaken. Just turned it on. Commercial break at the moment.

    Just trying to catch you. Cheers !!
     
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  10. Tim
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    The name of the show is car fix? I don’t have cable just 900 streaming services lol. I’ll search for it later when I’ve got some screen time available thanks for the heads up
     
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  11. "Supercharged Studebaker" is the episode name. July 18, 2020 original broadcast date.

    Kinda' street roddy .. but they show the supercharger clocking .. & bracketry fab'.
     
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  12. Tim
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    Awesome thanks :)
     
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    Veeeeeeery close to having the primaries welded up and ready to trim and fit the collector. E22E89B0-E9E7-4564-A38C-A2AB0A3FF5BB.jpeg
     
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  15. Tim
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    D66DCF72-7AA9-4DFE-B7B5-0F267992E404.jpeg And there we go!
     
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    A pause on the header to recover and fix some post modern dinning room chairs and the old worn out vinyl looked like it would almost fit... E9D67638-18D4-41E2-9F8A-9103BEA73D8F.jpeg and they almost do! Lol better than some cut up old khakis anyways
     
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  17. justabeater37
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    On the 4 cylinder side of things, I saw mine today. It is waiting on pushrods. Supposed to be done early next week. Now I need to find that roadster pick up buried in my garage and remember where I was at on it...
     
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  18. dumprat
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    I like the white seats! That and some whitewalls would set it off. And keep you busy cleaning
     
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  19. Tim
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    oh that’s awesome I want to hear that thing!
     
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    feel like they’d be dirty by the time I even thought about it lol.
     
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    Me too.
     
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  22. Tim
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    I’d been looking at dash compasses for a couple years and saw this one last night.

    it’s hull brand which makes me think maybe I should be looking at boat parts. Anyhow, this one lights up and would seem you could flip it around and mount it off the bottom of the dash?

    8B624857-79D1-4504-896C-5F175CB0AA57.jpeg 46FFB0D1-2445-4DA4-911E-C580CFC2D39E.jpeg
     
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  23. Tim
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    Got the tires off the wheels, better than I thought they might be. They’ll go into the acid in the next couple days 5D597BB3-990D-4710-8273-5BF54F608F59.jpeg 6D03C28A-0D74-48C5-836A-16E2C3660C84.jpeg
     
  24. Tim
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    Got the header and intake on the motor... sorta.

    these show off what I call my “ @drdave divot” haha. By the time we got that forward primary to fit in sunk closer to the head and require quite a chunk to be moved. We opened the back side and spliced in a section of tube across the bend so that outside of there being a corner in the tube the path is the same width as before.

    best way to do it? Maybe not. But all the other options at the time seemed really un flattering. AD89272E-6506-42F2-B7AA-722575F6F4D0.jpeg 3361E5FF-2E94-4E49-B17C-88C97989B335.jpeg A2230EB1-5C16-497B-8DBA-80CAB75EAB45.jpeg
    Used my fancy jig aka cheap wood dolly and clamps and went about trimming the primary’s time clear the bell housing

    gotta say a porta band is awefuly handy 3A39E84B-4807-4358-B55B-29986F712167.jpeg C62D1E7B-8922-4AFF-83AA-335C499FCFEC.jpeg 1D79FD05-973B-4C8B-B122-38E670D364C2.jpeg
     
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  25. Tim
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    So I said almost because this stud hits my trouble primary and once that’s gone it’ll probably touch this knob in the casting of the motor.

    I’m going to see if I can snake a bolt into the intake threw the header flange and still get a wrench in there. I’m not opposed to just pulling the stud and replacing it with a bolt.

    the casting knob will catch a flap wheel to make some room 72D667F2-9E25-424F-B35D-4DC98251035F.jpeg 77314F49-D528-4A2B-9679-543094E9DA78.jpeg EC063E43-A9D2-470E-A832-3A0BB36D044A.jpeg BE83F83B-C4F0-4836-9497-0291A2D9107A.jpeg 31D2D4DF-ADC8-4A84-A294-3A88AEE36C35.jpeg
     
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  26. Tim
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    The great big alternator fits and just hardly doesn’t touch the header. But it confirms how damn ugly it is. I’m going to paint a tiny little denzo alternator black and tuck it close to the block. Should damn near be invisible in that shadow. 207C9380-B5E3-4AEB-834B-BBF02538DEDF.jpeg 6E629308-7A59-4F42-BC4E-BFEFE3E3FE99.jpeg CA5AA639-4D5C-43DC-B4AF-12E455DCCD0F.jpeg BCFA231B-12AA-42B0-8E45-D189BC0A3AD1.jpeg
     
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    784997A8-CAD2-4FD4-8F64-E6F7D26304BE.jpeg My favorite part is how this primary runs along side the steering column. AF7A3710-95D4-4A7B-82AF-4EFC9BCB4CB4.jpeg 9B379350-B3D0-4A57-A98F-2BE3F0151F02.jpeg roughing out where this collector is going to land. Should be able to cant it over and down to get everything where it needs to be with out to much hassle.

    lol “with out to much hassle” I crack myself up

    any how it’s closer. So that’s cool. I think my fire wall mounted masters are going to come damn close to the carb, but the firewall mounted oil filter visually balances it out nice.
     
  28. I think I would look at redoing that front tube when you see where the Denso alternator ends up. Having that tube come straight out first would save a lot of hassles
     
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    Yeah, it’s just metal nothing we can’t fuck with down the road some more.
     
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  30. Six Ball
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    These engines are only 2/3 as long as their big brothers but all the bolt ons are the same size. You run out of room fast! I'm looking for a small 12v generator for mine.
     
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