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Technical Axle ID help...

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by robsimmons, Aug 25, 2020.

  1. robsimmons
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    616AF9CA-DDCA-474B-B4D0-EB35E57C93E1.jpeg I bought what I was told was a 49 Ford truck axle for my gasser project... Doesn’t look like it after all... I’ve looked through Sid’s and a couple other sites, but I’m not sure I’ve found what this is. Maybe a Chevy/GMC...?
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  2. alchemy
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    More like 49 Chevy than 49 Ford.
     
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  3. saltflats
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    Not a Chevy truck.
     
  4. squirrel
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    looks like 1950s chevy truck to me, but it's really hard to tell with the pictures....how about moving in close with the camera, but not too close?

    btw the tie rod is supposed to be behind the axle, not in front of it.

    pics of a 59 chevy truck axle

    axle3.jpg axle2.jpg axle1.jpg
     
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  5. saltflats
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    His axle looks wavy across the bottom, the Chevy axles I have aren't like that. The beam is flat all the way across the bottom.
     
  6. robsimmons
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    Thanks for the replies. The guy doing the gasser re-do for me compared mine to a ‘54 Chevy 1/2 ton axle he has and said the backing plate bolt spacing was similar. When I poked around Sid’s and others I didn’t see any that have the non-flat bottom like mine...

    The axle was just set on the trailer for transport to the chassis shop. Not staged for a photo shoot. LOL
     
  7. MojoRacing
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    49-53 Dodge maybe? The Dodge trucks have a wavey axles like that.
     
  8. robsimmons
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    The guy I bought it from now says it may have come from an International... I should have done my homework before jumping in. Pretty typical of me.
     
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    robsimmons, thats not necessarily a bad thing. The International spindles were pretty popular on circle track cars.
     
  10. robsimmons
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    studebakerjoe that is good to know. If I can find a good disc brake set up for it I may still use it. I just need to confirm what it actually is! LOL
     
  11. robsimmons
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    Okay,... I got some pics for help in identifying this axle. The chassis builder believes it is a Chevy axle. It compares pretty closely with the ‘54 Chevy axle he has laying there.

    Here are some more pics... Help! LOL E9347955-470B-40FE-8032-95A888956235.jpeg EB8D2B70-45CD-4601-9F7A-BF2205D33559.jpeg ACCB5D66-8DC3-4D65-A982-0D00A6BC1B05.jpeg 7C4F1F22-35B1-42CB-A09D-344E890BFF10.jpeg 57D7EABA-997B-4763-91E8-17DCF24E5AC7.jpeg A3341131-BCC6-4AE6-BDD2-0E4DEF69FA9D.jpeg 3EC374F2-B022-4E5B-A629-23F0070DC4E1.jpeg 2AE90AF7-3530-447A-A4AD-769B34E5B0F9.jpeg 9D5F70BA-E439-4B6E-B6C2-C27E506BCBE7.jpeg 27EFE6F2-598C-443F-A46B-1641D86AEE30.jpeg
     
  12. robsimmons
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    Here is some more measurement info to help:
    King pin centers are 50 1/2” apart.
    Springs are not parallel - 26” center at the front and 30 3/4” at the back.
    Backing plate bolt spacing is 3 1/16” apart both top and bottom. Spacing between top and bottom bolts is 4 1/2”

    Can anyone help or point me to someone who can? I’m still hoping to be able to use this axle. Thanks!
     
  13. robsimmons
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    Brian at Speedway Motors hooked me up. 47-54 1/2 ton Chevy.
     
  14. saltflats
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    Don't look like the Chevy ones I have.
     
  15. robsimmons
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    Aaaaannndd..... Here we go again....

    I got the Chevy kit and went to install it... Inner bearing spacer and outer bearing won’t fit the spindle... steering arm bolt holes are also a smidge and a smidge & a half off... Speedway tech dudes won’t be back until Tuesday...

    I found a number on the axle... still looking for any opinions...
     

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  16. robsimmons
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    I think we may have found an important number on the axle.... Check twice, order once... Duh!
    That little I inside the hat big H makes me think it ain’t no Ford nor no Chevy axle...
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  17. I believe it's International pickup. Haybalers as well as Chevy/GMC used that same type of drag link that has the end like a Model A Ford tie rod.
     
  18. Well the I inside the H casting mark is for International Harvester so there is that...
     

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