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Technical 28 tudor header brackets M I A

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Kiwi 4d, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. Kiwi 4d
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    I did post this on the Ford Barn Several days ago with No useful response.
    Our 28 Tudor was disassembled by a PO who should not be allowed near old cars . It seems we are missing a bracket that should tie the curved steel side roof to the wood header . It’s one of those things when you have not got it you don’t know it’s missing, till the jigsaw seems Like it’s missing a bit. Any pictures or suggestions appreciated
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  2. Do you know there actually is a bracket missing? I thought at that point the the sheet metal was just nailed to the wood. I looked thought the old brackets from my Tudor build and the only brackets I can find from that area ties the windscreen pillars to the front of the door plates as shown in your bottom pic.
    Not saying there isn’t, I just would’ve thought if there was it would of been with the others.
     
  3. Kiwi 4d
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    No I know nothing,( sgt. Shultz) if I nail the wood under the curved tin roof and top wood on bolted on I still fail to see away to connect all three. Todd the Bus said yesterday At the swap meet he thought there was a Simple bracket there on his coupe . Maybe he still had some ,maybe...??
    Well is a full on hot rod so I guess we can fabricate what we want,.30/31 had a fairly decent formed bracket there.
     
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  4. Yeah, I can’t quite remember mine. How is the wood that runs in the lip of the roof section attach to the header wood? I thought that had a simple 90 degree peice of 1/8” flat screwed onto both inside faces of the wood.
     

  5. Kiwi 4d
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    Probably so , as they said 30 31 was a vast improvement , 28 29 was weak at that point , But thats as close as i have come to any real info.
     
  6. sloppy jalopies
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    '30 truck / tudor… DSCN6413.JPG DSCN6404.JPG DSCN6409.JPG DSCN6410.JPG
     
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  7. Listed in Bert’s Model A parts on the net as “Windscreen header brackets.
     
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  8. '28 Tudor, driver's side.
    Pay no attention to the bubblegum welds.:oops:
    The bracket you're missing looks to be about 16 gauge steel.
    Let me know if you need more pics pr measurements.:)
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  9. Kiwi 4d
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    Thanks for taking the time to post picture @Just Gary It all becomes clear now. So some one who should not be allowed near old cars has taken the time to remove the original factory bracket ,by taking the time to drill the rivet out, then use a zip wheel to cut off the bracket , which explains the little triangle left on our Tudor , or vice versa . After seeing these pics , I decided to make my own brackets tying all 3 elements together . I did not spend hours fabricating these simple bracket , just wanted something rudimentary and functional. And listening to others that early A brackets were weak. 0861A9CC-59AC-4858-89D5-2F48BCCE66D0.jpeg A21F01AD-A083-4DEB-A3AA-D5E61CD093B8.jpeg
     
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  10. bathcollector
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    Here you go, these are my ones.
     

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  11. alchemy
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    Kiwi, that looks like a much better solution than Ford made. Tying the two main wood braces together tightly will help a lot.
     
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  12. chev34ute
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    I am not sure how relevant this is, it seems like you have solved it, but I thought I would share this anyway. This is the header panel of a mates coupe he was building last year.
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