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History Help ID Chevy T10 4 speed from old hot rod

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Youngster51, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. Youngster51
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    I got this Chevy T10 4 speed that was behind a 327 in a 32 ford coupe built in the late 60’s. Can anyone help identify what the trans originally came in. Thanks

    main case is stamped T10-1C
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    Tail is stamped T10-7D date 8-26-66
    Side cover date 11-9-62
    Has a number stamped on top 363S18683



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  2. BJR
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    All the ones I have ever seen for sale were from Corvettes. Or so they said. :D
     
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  3. squirrel
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    The number stamped on the top makes it look corvette.... date, assembly plant, serial number
     
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  4. Youngster51
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    funny Thing is the guy I got it from said it was corvette to
     

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  6. squirrel
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    what does this say? WK1723? hard to read the letters.

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  7. Youngster51
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    Yes I’m pretty sure it’s WK1723
     
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  8. 427 sleeper
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    I'm with squirrel, probably from an early '63 Vette, with a replacement tail housing.
     
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  9. squirrel
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    from the chevy 1964 parts book. I don't know if this clarifies anything. The last couple lines might decode that WK thing

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  10. sdluck
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    My t 10 is from a 61 or 62 vette and a cast iron case
     
  11. Youngster51
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    So it’s a early 63 corvette main case and a 66 replacement tail housing
     
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  13. Youngster51
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    Maybe ordered tail shaft from Gm to replace it on this rebuilt 4 speed. the car has been sitting since 69 with the front collar on the other 4 speed cracked This 4 speed was sitting next to the old one
     
  14. rumblegutz
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    1961 Corvette early production started with cast iron main cases cast T10-1B. The tail shaft housings were aluminum. Aluminum cases appeared after VIN sequence number 2400. With a mix of aluminum and cast iron cases till around VIN 5500. All '62 Corvettes were equipped with aluminum main cases and tail shaft housings.
     
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  15. rumblegutz
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    WK1723 is the transmissions build date and translates Warner Gear November 17, 1962, 3rd shift.

    If this trans main case started life in a '63 Corvette the VIN derivitive would be stamped vertically on the left side rear.

    The stamp on the top of the main case is not a typical factory stamp. It is individually hand stamped in a location not visible when the transmission is installed. Stampings for engines and transmissions in this time period were gang stamped. I'm reluctant to speculate but I will, it may be a rebuilder's stamp. I have included a typical 1962-3 factory stamp. This being a '63.

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  16. squirrel
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    I wonder if it might have been a replacement installed at a dealership, and stamped by hand? I dont know what they did with the numbers on warranty replacement stuff on Vettes...

    I really doubt a rebuilder would be stamping a partial serial number on a transmission, like that. But we'll probably never know.
     
  17. rumblegutz
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    I think you make a very plausible suggestion. Problem being the 18683rd '63 Corvette is a late car likely built in the first week of July while the hand stamped date appears to be 3 63 or March 1963. Some time before the build of the 18,683rd Corvette.

    It may be a service part. Sold over the parts counter.
     
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  18. egads
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    363S looks like a 63 Pontiac serial # built at the South Gate Ca. plant. My Catalina has the 363Sxxxxx serial # stamped in the same spot on the top of it's T-10.
     
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  19. 2OLD2FAST
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    If the 1/2 dozen 4-speeds I've owned since 1965 , 5 were put together with parts & pieces of other 4-speeds , its a real stretch to expect all the original parts to be together .
     
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  20. rumblegutz
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    I posted a response then realized I was all wrong because what I was writing about was 1965 and after and didn't apply to this trans at all. So I deleted it.

    So does the first 3 in this VIN represent Catalina? The 63 that follows is the model year 1963? And the S is South Gate, California?
     
  21. Did anyone else notice that it is sitting on what looks like a kitchen table?:D
     
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  22. egads
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    So does the first 3 in this VIN represent Catalina? The 63 that follows is the model year 1963? And the S is South Gate, California?[/QUOTE]
    That's correct according to the info I have. ( Factory parts book, build sheet, Pontiac Historical Society. )
     
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  23. squirrel
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    S also means St Louis, where Vettes were built through 1982.
     
  24. rumblegutz
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    Would that be something abnormal? :rolleyes:
     
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  25. Not in our world
     
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  26. Youngster51
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    Yes that’s my kitchen table. So it’s looking to be a 63 Pontiac maybe? I got 2 4 speed transmissions from this house the other one has a broken snout collar was told he had this rebuilt to take place of the other in his 32 coupe I’ll post pictures of the other trans was behind a real deal corvette 327
     
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  28. Youngster51
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    That's correct according to the info I have. ( Factory parts book, build sheet, Pontiac Historical Society. )[/QUOTE]

    I think this other 4 speed trans is a Pontiac
     
  29. Youngster51
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    He did have a 63 split window vette in the garage his son was keeping a lot of vette parts scattered thru out
     

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