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Technical 31 Model A Coupe - Fill Roof Before or After Chop

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ebbsspeed, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. Ebbsspeed
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    I'll be giving my Model A a 4 inch haircut later this summer, and am wondering if I should weld in a filler panel to the roof before or after chopping? I'm thinking it would be prudent to fill first, just looking for confirmation.

    If not, reasons I should chop first?
     
  2. The37Kid
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    Restored car of field find?
     
  3. gnichols
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    Great question... hoping for great answers, too.
     
  4. scrap metal 48
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    I like your chop plan but I keep pushing for radiator and top 002.JPG radiator and top 003.JPG more roof inserts.... Show pics of your chop when done... **clic pics**
     
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  5. Ebbsspeed
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    Not a restored car, just a complete rusted old running car that I have somewhat torn down. Bad wood in quite a few areas, needs a few patch panels on the back half.
     
  6. pitman
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    If you align & cut well, I'd be tempted to wait on the roof. It will create a stiff panel. Depends if you want do a 'unit' versus, doing each corner as "plumb".
     
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  7. adam401
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    Its not going to matter really. Model A is a very straight forward chop. I dont see the potential for the roof to move in any weird way if left unfilled. Theres not a lot of fiddling with stuff to make it fit.

    For what its worth I chopped one 5 inches no insert. Went well. Most straight forward chop ive done.
     
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  8. harpo1313
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    for easy access for the work, wait til last.
     
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  9. DONT DO IT FIRST!!! Do the chop first then fill the roof only after the chop is completely finished. Metal warps when you weld it even if just a little bit. But if is warped 1/16 of an inch at near the weld location it will be exaggerated but the time you get all the way out to the chop locations. I have chopped 3 model A coupes that all had the roof filled first, some done right some done horribly. All of them made getting the panels to line up at the chop much harder. Last A I chopped was infilled and was a breeze to get it lined up. Had in done in a week of evenings. Chop then fill.
     
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  10. align ALL panels first. everything should be straight and solid before chopping. I would fill the roof after wards. having the roof open will make it easier to work/lift/finish . just my opinion.
     
  11. Wait until it is chopped.


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  12. Ebbsspeed
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    Thanks, looks like chop then fill is the way to go. I appreciate all the input.
     
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  13. Roothawg
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    A word of advice.

    Ask the HAMB about the window pivot placement. I didn't on mine and it ended up being a hassle. You don't think about it until you get ready to figure out how to chop the ws frame.

    I'm not sure where I went wrong, but just think about it up front. I'm sure that the guys hat have done a lot of model A's could tell you more.

    I don't have an answer, because I sold mine before it was finished. You just want the geometry to be right so the window hinges are placed correctly. It's been a few years and I can't remember exactly, but it seems like the sliders get in the way of something.

    Sorry to be so vague.
     

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