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Projects nastiest model A part ever dragged home

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by sloppy jalopies, Apr 25, 2020.

  1. raven
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  2. Paid 50 bucks for this pile. Axles are good. Sheet metal is trash. Tank is only ok for a topper. 20200527_134916.jpg
     
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  3. Here's a bonus. Not Model A, but still cool junk. 20200527_135033.jpg 20200527_135124.jpg
     
  4. sloppy jalopies
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    Model A cut down, parts scrounger's view ;
    Left w/s post will help some one out... $25- up.
    the firewall needs water hose size holes filled...
    but not 3" hot air craters... reversible raw material... $50-up.
    hydrolic brake closed drive shaft banjo...$150-up.
    the filler panel [betwwen the w/s frame and the tank] were $125 re-pop...
    if still out there... more money for glass ?
    front pick up truck spring... A axle... $ Gas and lunch money...
     
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  5. saltflats
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    I'm trying to get my hands on this one.
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  6. sloppy jalopies
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    Winner, winner, chicken dinner... that's a beauty...
    for the record the '30-'31 coupe, sporties, cabbies and some fordors used the same cowl...
    '30-'31 tudors and truck cowls were about 1" taller... from the top of the upper hinge to the top of the w/s post... all 3 hinges line up with both higth cowls...
    the difference is only in the Sheetmetal... the innards stayed the same so henry could run the same w/s frame and visor with both style cowls...panel behind the visors are different...
    '30-'31 quarter garnish are left and right, '28-'29s are the same on both sides...
    coupe door garnish is just an armrest, if all the way around its a fordor… $0.02 worth.
     
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  7. saltflats
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    I have a cowl that I believe is from a Briggs. I'll have to get a picture of it.
     
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  8. sloppy jalopies
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    There are '29 Briggs and Murrays with '30 style beltlines, they are built on wooden cages...
    they used '28-'29 gastanks, mounted from underneath... threaded gas cap... [3 piece firewall].
    .
    the '30 Murray fordor used a '30 closed car cowl, [1 piece '30 firewall]… twist cap...
    not sure about Briggs…
    Murray front door tops had a slight arch from F to B … thicker B jam post... Briggs ? …
    ... shop wisely saltflats ...
     
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  9. jakeknapp29
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    Saved this one from the scrap a couple of weeks ago.
     
  10. sloppy jalopies
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    Sheetmetal looks familiar...
    note the sharp bend just under the window...
    steel skin on a wooden inner door, thicker B jam post...
    Murray Ford... front half of the next coupester/truckster…
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  11. wheeldog57
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    Smitty, yes that looks very familiar. . . . Because I have that cowl now
     
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  12. Doug Hines
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    There was so little left of this one that two old men picked it up by hand and put it on a trailer to bring it home. Quarter panels were flopping in the wind. It will not win though. Might be a strong contender for worst parts that got put back on the road. ?
     
  13. saltflats
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    These are the other parts I have.
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  14. coupe33
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    I still think there are more Model A's out in middle America than here. I think Doug Hines Coupe is just right!
     
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  15. sloppy jalopies
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    I know of [147] model A bodies that are not around here anymore...
    I dragged them home !
    then again around here we have that "warrior oxidation" eating them from the dirt up !
    but hey coupe33.. please keep looking for 'em …
    did you ever see the '3o coupe on the low side of RT. 122 between RT. #4 A and RT. #4 in Buxton ?
    sat there forever...
    I asked the folks next door... knew nothing... few years back somebody was arrested for trying to steal it...
    memory says there was an early '30s Lincoln roadster there too... used to be stuff everywhere...
     
  16. coupe33
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    The only mistake was selling my 31.
     
  17. sloppy jalopies
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    I think there is a pill for that !
     
  18. 66gmc
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    This sedan I salvaged a few years ago looks mint compared to what others have posted. It had a butchered chop, no rear panel, no doors and lots of rust. I kinda pieced it back together and sold it...not sure if it ever got finished 20160807_090612.jpg 20161109_194805.jpg 20161109_194727.jpg
     
  19. Cool 33
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    crushed 32.jpg In the 1980's, while out hunting rust, I spotted this in the tall grass along a creek on a farm to market road near Celina, Texas. Went back later with a friend and trailer and come-a long. Took a while to get it loaded. It "was" a '32 Ford tudor sedan. I think it probably had been run over by a bulldozer during the rebuilding of the bridge it was near. I kept it for several years. There was 1 good '32 front motor mount saved off of it. Someone else wanted the steering box housing. The small Z shaped plates that re-enforced the side mount braces in the cowl went on a fully restored car with dual side mounts. Literally there was nothing else usable.
     
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  20. sloppy jalopies
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    now that may be the winner in the v8 class !
     
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  21. Cool 33
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    My dad and mom both grew up in Kaufman County, Texas near Forney in the 1920's and 1930's. When I began to get interested in old cars in the 1960's I asked my dad about the cars that were around in his youth. He had lots of stories about his family's Model T's and A's as well as other makes around the area. He told about one of the more wealthy residents owning a Stutz Bearcat. It ended up parked at a local mechanics place near where I live today because of a broken timing gear and was never repaired that he knew of. due to unavailability of the gear or for some reason. He didn't know what ever became of it. Figured that it was probably scrapped in WW2. Fast forward to the late 1990's. I live on a small portion of what was my grandparents farm. All the surrounding farms had been bought up over the years including where the mechanic had lived by a wealthy person and consolidated into one ranch. I was able to gain access to this area and had been told that there were old car pieces in various places. I found several areas where they had been covered over in the ravines that they had been pushed in to. This one consisted of a crumpled knock off type wire wheel and axle, part of a fender, a headlight bucket and tie bar and 2 headlight mounts. I did a little digging but what was below ground was mostly rusted away. I cut the end if the rather large axle of and brought the pieces home. For several years after that I looked at many pictures of vintage cars. Once the internet became available it became easier to search. I finally determined that it was a 1920's Stutz! I base that on the way that the wheel mounts on the hub and also on the fender. It has no beads or lines and is completely smooth with a slight crown across it.The headlight shape and brackets look correct also. Since it buried in the general area that my dad had last seen it, I feel very confident that it was the Bearcat. Sad ending for one of the first factory 'hot rods' I am posting the pictures of what I have and feel free to check my conclusions or comment thanks! 000_0515.JPG 000_0514.JPG
     
  22. Stock Racer
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    Not nearly as nasty as some of the others but it's my contribution. Went to see the old lady that owned the property every day for about a month. She quit answering the door. Saw it leaving on a flat bed a few months later. 313486-1312143331-e5b42998421aa462f4779fc1f6cef4e3.jpg Model A on Ridge 2.jpg Model A on Ridge.jpg
     
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  23. ol'stinky
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    from New Jersey

    Here's what I started with. I was young and dumb with a couple hundred dollars burning a hole in my pocket. I got it home and found out it was made of galvanized tin, bondo, plywood, and pop rivets.[​IMG][​IMG]


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  24. saltflats
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    Well I got it home, now what. :eek: :D
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  25. sloppy jalopies
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    looks better already,
    did you want to know the order in which we go at the job ?
    The order I use ;
    start with an A frame to set up on...
    1. cowl w/ blocks,
    2. subrails w/ blocks,
    3. crossrails w/ blocks, [kleco] [pan screws],
    4. bolt down cowl, cross rails,
    5. hang doors, ream holes use new oversize pins,
    6. plot B pillars, bolt now, rivet later,
    7. anchor heavy rear crossrail to subrails, [kleco]
    8. align the vertical supports,
    9. check trunk gaps,
    10. only tack weld where it is easy to grind off later,
    11. take the tape measure tour at every chance.
    12. when in doubt go get a "lemonade", take a brake, most times the cure comes to you and you are back in business ...
     
  26. sloppy jalopies
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    not to my house, but I went and looked...
    wore a mask, should have brought a barf bag...
    there are parts I could use but need to be cheap, real cheap... DSCN6554.JPG
     

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  27. sloppy jalopies
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    belongs on this thread... used to be a '37 truck... DSCN6514.JPG
     
  28. The37Kid
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    ^^^^^^^^ Is the copper worth more than the steel?
     
  29. sloppy jalopies
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    I think you are right... hmmmm.
    I have a good size scrap tin pile... but no scrap copper pile... yet.
     
  30. sloppy jalopies
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    may be 2 panels that don't belong on this thread,,,
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    but the rest are nasty... fortunately they found a good home...
     
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