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Projects 1960 Pontiac Catalina Stick Car!

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 31hotrodguy, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. BSL409
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    Very cool Congrats!!
     
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  2. engine number 37M.....'62 & 63, 389, 2 bbl, 283 hp, automatic.
     
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  4. 31hotrodguy
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    Took the rear seat out of the 63 star chief and surprisingly it fits okay.... at least we’ll enough until a stock one falls from the sky along with a front seat![​IMG][​IMG]


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    Had had high hopes to pull the engines out of the two cars but the rain slowed us down. However; the 63 engine is actually Pontiac blue underneath the dust and grime. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]


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    from SW Wyoming

    Well, if a man is wearing a dress, then it becomes a man's dress.
     
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    Just FYI, That right side fender mirror is pretty hard to find in decent shape. As a pair they could help fund your project.
     
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    Thank you for the tip. I’ll be nice to it when it comes off. We’ve been pretty gentle taking stuff apart even with the stuff that was crunched.


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    I got my adapter from Butler yesterday so hopefully now I can mock up the 63 engine with the later bellhousing. [​IMG]


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    from california

     
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    Great tip on that CLR thing, could have used that on a couple of cars that came my way
     
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    Engines disconnected. Ready to be pulled. Hope I never forget pictures like these. [​IMG][​IMG]


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  14. Bullit68
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    This was the stamping on front passenger side of engine block on my car, and the VIN. 494F931B-8B5A-4856-AA6E-B18F7A2B5413.jpeg DB2E7C93-5C2F-47DB-BD4B-A2C8014F9C40.jpeg
     
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    I didn’t realize they stamped the vin into the engine! Cool


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    Just saw this post, I have a lot of 60 Pontiac Catalina parts if interested. I probably have enough trim to do a complete car plus other parts.
     
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    Thank you! I’ll touch base soon!


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    Boys did good pulling the engine out of the 63. Not one broken part. I was impressed! [​IMG]
    Obviously dad helped they did the dirty work.


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    The 63 block bellhousing bolts are 7/16 and the scatter shield looks like 3/8’s. Pontiac used different bolts on the later engines??????


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  22. My 57 engine uses 7/16ths bolts.
     
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    Not a whole lot of progress this past week as I am having to rebuild my kitchen due to water damage. But I did get the 59 engine and trans unbolted. Hopefully I’ll get it pulled this weekend.
    The kids and I have been polishing the original paint for fun. It amazes me what can been done to original paint. Can’t do that with clear coat! [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]


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    We were able to get the 59 engine out of the Catalina before it started raining. One of boys[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] made the comment “this is exciting dad, we’ve never taken the engine out of a car with the front fenders on.” Lol I’ve had them take plenty of cars apart. I guess it was good practice for doing it to a “nicer” car.


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    So the little 3 spd is only 16 inches long from the front of the case to the end of the tail housing which is about 5 inches shorter than a regular T10. I believe 60 was the first year for the 4 spd? Or did they have a different cross member/trans mount with an obviously shorter drive shaft for the T10?????? Does anybody know????[​IMG]


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  29. stuart in mn
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    1960 was the first year a four speed was offered in Pontiacs. I believe it was a mid-year, special order thing; it wasn't a regular production option until 1961.

    I don't know about 1960, but in 1961 they came with long or short tail shafts, depending on whether they were installed in a Catalina/Ventura or a longer wheelbase Star Chief/Bonneville.
     
  30. That's a Muncie 318 trans. Identical to the 318 used in Chevrolets. They started using the short tailhousing and rear mount in 1958. I notice your scattershield is drilled for both GM and Ford Transmissions. A full syncro ford three speed from behind a FE would be plenty strong for your car. Some GM actually came frome the factory with a ford Warner three speed trans.
     

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