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  1. Ryan
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    Ryan submitted a new blog post:

    WWI Dazzle

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  2. alanp561
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    I've always been interested in naval history and this is one more thing I've learned, thanks to you. Somewhere, I have a book describing the detailing of 16th, 17th and 18th warships and some of the paint schemes used in those days approach what you displayed here. I'll see if I can find it.
     
  3. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I'd paint a hot rod like that - except somebody may hit me.
     
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  4. Ryan
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    Haha... I think a hot rod painted in dazzle would be taking it too far. But I do think there could be some inspiration to be used here.
     
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  5. mlagusis
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    That's pretty cool right there. At first glance, the first picture almost looks like a group of boats moored together.Proof that the idea works I guess.
     
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  6. 41 GMC K-18
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    Imagine Picasso and VonDutch, sitting in a shipyards superintendent's office discussing various patterns to apply to ships, dazzle indeed!
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  8. Also often thought that WW1 "lozenge" camouflage would be interesting to see on a car, as long as you can avoid any "theme car" nonsense.
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    Automakers use the same techniques to disguise their pre-production vehicles using vinyl wraps.
     
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  10. KingofThings
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    Your wife? ;)
     
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  11. woodiewagon46
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    It was known as razzle or dazzle painting. It wasn't used as a camouflage, as it's rather hard to hide a battleship. It was used to confuse the enemy and make the speed and heading difficult to calculate, thereby making the range harder to calculate. When aircraft carriers became the primary warship, the painting was phased out. With aircraft, no longer did we need to hurl shells miles away, now we launched planes to attack the target. Speaking about Von Dutch, when I was working, I would ride the subway up to 66th St. My job was located near Martin Luther King High School. I saw a teenager with a Von Dutch "T" shirt and asked him if he knew anything about Von Dutch. He replied "Oh sure we studied him, Von Dutch is an artist known for his painting of flowers".
     
  12. KingofThings
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    LOVE this! Shocked to see it here but thanks!
    I have collected such ship photos for a long time.
    There was even a 'pink' RN ship. :)
    Ever seen the liners painted this way.
     
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    Love to have that book! :)
     
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  14. KingofThings
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    What plane? ;)
     
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  15. KingofThings
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    Good heavens. :p
     
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  16. Nacifan
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    How about a little Dazzle on the Dry Lakes 30706719_1632841220140820_3231556483254583296_n.jpg
     
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  17. KingofThings
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    Such ships, and probably some others without dazzle, had bow waves painted on the stern to make it appear they were going the opposite way.
     
  18. KingofThings
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    Yes. Picasso was a wide crooked stripe guy. ;)
     
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  19. belair
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    Looks like a Fokker D. VIII to me. On an almost related subject, I read that flat black was not as good at hiding night fighters in WWII as gloss black was.
     
  20. KingofThings
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    Weird...kicked out of being logged in while still reading and writing. :p
     
  21. jnaki
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    Hello,


    Those radical designs would have looked rather funny in the Naval Shipyards during WWI. (or anytime…) We would have had a field day in our history classes during the discussions. The only thing we remember is that they were painted grey, to look like the horizon.

    “The gray color reduces the contrast of the ships with the horizon, and reduces the vertical patterns in the ship's appearance.”


    When we were little kids, our dad took us to Terminal Island, to visit with some friends. We could not help but see the field of grey sitting in the U.S. Naval Shipyard closer to the Long Beach Harbor. When my friend took us to the huge recreation pool on the Navy Base, we got to get closer to those huge ships that were docked. That was very cool for a little kid. It was not until the school history classes that the color was told to us about the semi-camouflage paint scheme that grey presented.

    Jnaki

    A new way to look at those drab grey colors, even during the little kid model ship building days. I am sure stickers would have been provided in those kits when we used to put them together. But, maybe the designs were a Navy secret…

    At any rate, those grey plastic ship models we made, used to have fun going down the fast moving current next to our curbs in Long Beach. That street that we lived on was noted as being the fastest flowing stream of water. But, also, it plugged up at the PCH intersection quite often, too.
     
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    Last I heard, unless that was stopped, the Chinese own that base now. :p
     
  24. alanp561
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    I've offered it to @Ryan but he seems to be extremely hesitant about accepting it. It's not all about paint schemes but most is about carved figure heads, sterns and anywhere else on a ship that the owner or builder thought needed ornamentation. You're welcome to it. If you would send me your name and address, I'll get it off to you next time I'm in town. I hope you enjoy it.
    Alan Purvis
     

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    On a related vein, a friend of mine painted his old Suburban in camouflage.

    Now he can't find it.
     
  26. alanp561
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    My apologies to Ryan, I had intended to send my last post as a PM.
     
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  27. J.Ukrop
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    Adjustments.JPG Dazzlin’ at the T.R.O.G. Santa Barbara Drags
     
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  28. Stogy
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    16473580_1196252630411641_7902013532260250788_n.jpg

    :rolleyes:...Wartime Influence Perhaps...

    Can you see it...;)

    That is some Wild paint on those Warships @Ryan and it no doubt I say many times regarding Art and Hotrods, influences come from many sources...and it is interesting that Art is being used as a tool in war...

    Credit to Photographer, Owner
     
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  29. Danekejt
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    ive never heard of this before. thank you.
     
  30. Those ships remind me of myself. Sometimes I don't know if I'm coming or going!!:eek:;)
     

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