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History Tudor or Twodoor ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Josh the Painter, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. Interesting story and was wondering if anyone else has a memory on this. Pronunciation of Tudor. Everyone I know pronounces Tudor like the term for royalty, seems to be the modern taking. An old friend told me this is incorrect and the pronunciation is Tu-dor as in Two Door and when he was a boy it was shown that way in literature by having upper case letters to break the word up i.e TuDor.
    In original ford manuals and advertising I see we have Tudor ( two door) and Fordor ( four door) so I can see his story making sense and Ford chose an off beat spelling for advertising purposes that was perhaps misinterpreted over the years.
    Again just wondering others take on this?
    Cheers,
    Josh
     
  2. Like you said"tudor 2...fordor 4.But only car people understand.
     
  3. KenC
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    pronounced like the number of doors, not the English royal house. A Ford Marketing name to define a 2 door sedan.
     
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  4. LOU WELLS
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    This Is The Tudor Family From King Henry Vll To Queen Elizabeth (1485-1603)...The Auto Is A Two Door... image.png
     
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  5. It's a physical description of how many doors and is most correct to pronounce it that way regardless of advertising attempts to polish an economy, base model. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, though.
    I spell it '2-door', by the way. No confusion when I write it.

    But things get a bit foggier when you have to pronounce 'coupe'. :confused:
    Do the Beach Boys have it right? Or does it rhyme with, "The wind took my toupee!" It's your car; your choice, I guess.
     
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  6. okiedokie
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    Been tudor for me for the last 60 years, doubt I change.
     
  7. Pass The Torch
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    Tooter.
     
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  8. Bandit Billy
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    Had a Maserati parked in front of the office yesterday. My receptionist pointed it out and said it had a fancy Italian name on the rear deck lid. I asked her if it said quadraporte and she agreed. I told her not really fancy, means "4 door" in Italian. Henry called em that nearly a century ago.
    If you are going to pronounce it Coup-ay then you have to call 4 doors a saloon. Well, that's what I gather anyway from Jeremy Clarkson. Oh and don't call Corvettes "Zed Ott 6". I hate that!
     
  9. Maybe Im biased but we would have a quattroporte in at work for repairs almost on a weekly basis. Seems to be lots in Brisbane. And apart from as you say, a fancy sounding name, I really find nothing special about them. Maserati makes a quality car dont get me wrong but I find most modern cars just... are, and dont have the personality of classic cars and rods. But I suppose the same people buying these cars arent looking at 28 roadsters or 32 coupes or 30s auburn boat tails or a 55 buick century and going wow, how cool is that! Im just wired differently.

    Thank you for all the replies to clarify the pronunciation for me!
    Cheers,
    Josh
     
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  10. Yes I agree, your car your choice. I just wanted the clarifiaction on what was originally intended. Even heard the argument it was Tudor and the royal theme was continued with the Crown Victoria. So people come up with some interesting interpretations.

    As for coupe, if the beach boys pronounced it that way it must be right! You can not appreciate that song unless your a gear head.
    Cheers,
    Josh
     
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  11. blowby
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    Heck if I know, I drive a Picup.
     
  12. LAROKE
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    I'm in Boca Raton, literally "mouse mouth"
     
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  13. I know Willys is correctly pronounced "will iss," but we always referred to it as a "will ease."
     
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  14. goldmountain
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    I would think that it has more to do with FORDOR as opposed to four door. Henry's last name, not the monarch.

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  15. Here you go....Tudor.... model-a-cutaway1.jpg
     
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  16. hotrodjack33
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    I use Tudor and Fordor for describing Fords ONLY...as that was an official FoMoCo body designation.
    All those other "lesser makes", are 2-doors and 4-doors. :eek::D
     
  17. Beanscoot
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    And coincidentally Ford's 351 has the name of the current Royal House... Windsor.

    Thank God those engines weren't designed in the year 1400, or we'd have 351 Plantagenets!
     
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  18. BamaMav
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    Paul Harvey said “coo pay” for coupe. Took me a while to figure out what he was talking about.

    I listen to classic radio programs on Sirius XM. In many of them you hear the actors describing a car as a “coo pay”. These programs were broadcast and recorded in the 40’s and 50’s, so the pronunciation has changed over the years.
    By the way, everything else was described as a “see dan “. No mention of hardtops or station wagons, but I have heard the term “ jalopy” and “ hot rod” a time or two!
     
  19. A Boner
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    Weird Ford shit!
     
  20. gatz
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    Don't know the movie, but in one of them, Humphrey Bogart called his car a COO PAY.
     
  21. deucendude
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    Also known as a cdan by some.
     
  22. OLDSMAN
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    That would be the correct way Tudor and for Fordor are names that Ford gave to those cars. Others would be 2 door of 4 door.
     
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  24. Desmodromic
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    I prefer "coo-pay". I went too look at a 1940 coupe that was offered on a local radio "yard sale" program. Turned out to be an old shed a bunch of chickens were living in.
     
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  25. brjnelson
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    Yes that is what I have read over the years, and believe to be true.
     
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  26. WB69
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    Always been 2 door and 4 door for me. But, I'm from the sticks. Creek or Crick?
     
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  27. winduptoy
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    Battree is what my grandad said for battery....he was a more door bow tie three on the tree kind of guy still have his '39 Chebby
     
  28. The37Kid
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    Note the spelling, Ford added front doors in 1912 Fore or forward doors. EVERY Touring car left the factory with a functional front door on the right, drivers side had a fixed fake door panel. They could be removed, pet peeve of mine is owners of 1912's that falsely claim the doors were "accessories". Bob DSCF5968.JPG DSCF5969.JPG
     
  29. rusty valley
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    early on, a 2 door was a tudor sedan, and a 4 door was a coach. no such thing as a 4 door sedan
     
  30. OLSKOOL57
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    BA066407-DA4D-4518-9217-9627A49E97CA.jpeg
    My,’57 “Lesser Make”has always been 2dr. Sedan, when I referred to it.
     

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