Register now to get rid of these ads!

willson welding finned backing plates and steering arms

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by chevy12, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. chevy12
    Joined: Apr 27, 2008
    Posts: 100

    chevy12
    Member

    I bought willson weldings finned backing plates but i seem to be having problems fitting any type of steering arm with the big recess in the plates. Ive tried the dropped arms from speed way and the nice dropped arms from chassis engineering inc. both with different problems. I saw one car a show last year with the fins ground away. I have a 29 tudor sedan with a dropped front axle and 40 ford round spindles. Is that the only way to make them fit? any ideas or pictures from anyone who came across the same problem?
    Thanks
     
  2. What did Mr. Wilson say?
     
  3. badshifter
    Joined: Apr 28, 2006
    Posts: 3,538

    badshifter
    Member

    39-41 round back spindles work. There are pictures of the install on Wilson's website, and you can make 1 phonecall and be done.
     
  4. I've seen those backing plates used with stock arms.
     

  5. chevy12
    Joined: Apr 27, 2008
    Posts: 100

    chevy12
    Member

    bob is really hard to get a hold of. I know a lot of people have used them so i figured id ask here first everyone has had this issue. if you use the stock arms you have to heat them an bend them out to clear the finns. but they arent long enough to clear a dropped axle.
     
  6. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 23,333

    gimpyshotrods
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Heating the arms and bending them to clear changes the Ackerman geometry.
     
  7. Kirk Hanning
    Joined: Feb 27, 2005
    Posts: 1,605

    Kirk Hanning
    Member

    I'm aware of the problem that you are having. What I did to make aftermarket steering arms work was to add a spacer approx 3/8" deep between the steering arm's 2 mounting points and the backing plate. Just be sure to use heavy wall tubing for the spacers and that both ends are square.
     
  8. gtowagon
    Joined: Mar 23, 2011
    Posts: 406

    gtowagon
    Member

    I am using Wilson backing plates with SoCal spindles and steering arms and just ground down the fins for clearance
     
  9. chevy12
    Joined: Apr 27, 2008
    Posts: 100

    chevy12
    Member

    I did that also but spacing the arms out to clear the fins made the arms hit the axle when turning the wheel.
     
  10. Pewsplace
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 2,795

    Pewsplace
    Member

    WW finned plates require grinding the fins to clear the arms. I did not have to grind them much but the stock 40 spindles had interference issues with two of the fins. Once fitted you could not tell they were cut unless you really looked. Mr. Wilson will tell you that if you get a hold of him. Get out your grinder and go slowly.
     
  11. Boones
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 9,691

    Boones
    Member
    from Kent, Wa
    1. Northwest HAMBers

    please post a pic if you can..
     
  12. chevy12
    Joined: Apr 27, 2008
    Posts: 100

    chevy12
    Member

    worked on it today. here are some pictures. I ground the finns as needed and spaced it out just enough to clear. the arm fits a little bit better but still hits the axle.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  13. metal man
    Joined: Dec 4, 2005
    Posts: 2,955

    metal man
    Member

    Looks like Wilson Welding needs to develop their own forged steering arms to go with these brakes.
     
  14. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 23,333

    gimpyshotrods
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Or just modify the casting mold.
     
  15. metal man
    Joined: Dec 4, 2005
    Posts: 2,955

    metal man
    Member

  16. Byron Crump
    Joined: Jun 13, 2001
    Posts: 1,851

    Byron Crump
    Member

    Strange, I had So Cal and they cleared. I don't have that car anymore or I would go double check them. I may have spaced them but I don't remember doing it because I was more focused on the rear end spacing issues at the time.

    Edit: yeah, he says to grind away....
     
  17. Pewsplace
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 2,795

    Pewsplace
    Member

    The CE steering arms don't clear even on a stock set up. The angled arm is wrong and I have talked to them but they still keep coming the same way. SO-CAL's do clear and here is a photo. The arms are pricey but work.
     

    Attached Files:

  18. gtowagon
    Joined: Mar 23, 2011
    Posts: 406

    gtowagon
    Member

    Her is a pic of my setup with the SoCal arms I had to grind quite a bit but I didn't want to use spacers I can go lock to lock with no interference
     

    Attached Files:

  19. Soviet
    Joined: Sep 4, 2005
    Posts: 729

    Soviet
    Member

    My eyeballs need calibration - are those the dropped GT2 arms that you're running with minimal clearancing?
     
  20. Joliet Jake
    Joined: Dec 6, 2007
    Posts: 540

    Joliet Jake
    Member
    from Jax, FL

    Looks good!
    JMO, I would replace those grade 5 bolts and install grade 8 for safety reasons.
     
  21. Jmountainjr
    Joined: Dec 29, 2006
    Posts: 1,678

    Jmountainjr
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I have the Wilson finned backing plates, Superbell arms, and a 4" dropped '32 heavy axle. Not using any spacers on the arms due to clearance with the axle. I had to do some very minor grinding on the backing plates to get the arms to clear. If the axle fit was not so tight a decent washer would have fixed the issue without grinding.
    20200310_160228.jpg
    20200310_160321.jpg
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2020
  22. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 4,203

    denis4x4
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Colorado

    DCC4DE01-234D-450A-8C9B-518B7258B505.jpeg

    Obviously, the Hollywood Accessory backing plates are not as deep as Wilson’s. Used a modified Speedway hair pin steering arm
     
  23. Ain't hotroddin' fun?!
     
  24. Why grind on the steering arm and chance weakening it?
    Why not grind on the finned backing plate?

    Phil
     
  25. Weedburner 40
    Joined: Jan 26, 2006
    Posts: 956

    Weedburner 40
    Member

    I did a Model A several years ago for a customer using the WW finned backing plates and used the Magnum arms. As I recall, I had to grind on the fins a little but nothing major.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.