Hot Rods Oil pan to Axle clearance sbf Swap

Is there a difference between the oil pump pickup screens from the Explorer to Fox body? Is the rear sump the same height?

 

Am I wrong, or I thought you said issue was it was close to the axle?

 

Still the problem. Pulled it all to clean and prep!

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Both motors have different pickup screens, and the rear sump of the explorer is deeper. I can get a measurement if you're interested.

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Yea, your right dude....might as well put an LS in it like every other belly button buy a kit wannabe hotrodder......

 

That would be very helpful. I have a project with the fox body pan on it now and an extra 1/2" would be great at the very front of the pan as I also have a crossmember in the same area. Not to mention it would get rid of the goofy dual oil drains. Can you tell if you could use the fox body pickup with the explorer oil pan? Also what year Explorer is your engine from?Thanks

 

Without a doubt, the explorer pan is 3/8 shallower than the fox. Also the pick-ups will not interchange. Explorer has deeper rear sump. My explorer pan is off a 2001, but I think all the steel pans are the same, cause the part number shows a 98 date code. I do know Ford made. Cast aluminum pan, but I can't see it being shallower. Steel pan at this point is 3/8 off the bottom of the oil pump.

Black pan is explorer

Nasty gray is fox body

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Fox is 7 deep in the rear, I'll have to measure the fox rear sump later. My welder took a dump and I'm out looking for a machine today

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Thanks for the help. The Explorer oil pan seems to be easy to come by with or without the oil level sensor hole. The pickup is a different story and doesnt seem to be available aftermarket. Is it just longer to reach deeper into the pan? Or is there also clearance issues where the tube runs from the pump?

 

I used a 289 oil pan on my 302. HRP

 

What vehicle and year is that from^^^? Is it a rear sump pan? I see pans that look similar to that but find out that they are front sump.

 

on all the "double " sump pans the front "sump" is there for the oil pump. pick-ups are always in the rear sump

 

I was just curious about the pic HRP posted as it looked similar to a fox body "double" sump pan but without the extra drain in the front. I have a similar situation as Hyvolt and looking for a pan with the shortest area in the front area under the oil pump. Was looking to rework my existing fox pan but finding a oem pan thats 3/8"-1/2" shallower is a much better option.

 

The one I used is from a V8 Falcon, 64 -73 260/289/302 my later model 5.0 engine had the double hump pan but I had a clearance issue, I just used a front sump pan and used a oil pickup to match, I tossed the double pan and pickup on the scrap pile. HRP

 

You get an A+ for thinking outside the box! Several production cars had offsets in their axles to clear something-or-other; Mopar tube axles fron the '30s, and and all Crosleys, for example.

To extend your thought further, could use a dropped axle, and put an equivalent spacer between the spring and crossmember. Would likely be way more expensive than having the local truck spring shop bend in a vertical offset.

I still have trouble believing the axle will hit the pan before it hits the chassis, in this case. The clearance claimed seems more than adequate for suspension "bump". Could add rubber bump stops for assurance.

 

I have the same one from a 75 mustang. It is front sump

 

correct question also how close is the chin pan to the ground. 4 inches is a lot of travel on a dropped car. I have looked under cars with stock snubbers that the axle was touching them . not good for ride quality