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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bigcheese327, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. fredvv44
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    I suspect that the specials were built to get 4 wheels not 4 speeds so the easiest thing to do was use the Morgan bevel box with 2 sprockets and get on with it. It would be much mor complicated to have 4 chains.
     
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  3. banjeaux bob
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  4. Got a question... got several touring bikes with driveshafts for free, and was wondering if a Model T rear axle would be able to handle to motor? I have parts galore for model T's, but thought of using some of the misc parts to build something different.

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  5. fredvv44
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    I bet the diff would work fine. Many T's were hot rodded back then. The T front axle and steering would work too. Morgan 3 wheel owners would take the reduction gear box from T's and put them on the steering shaft of the Morgan.
     
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  7. 64 DODGE 440
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    Interesting "all weather" Moggy.
     
  8. fredvv44
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    Very comfortable but homely.
     
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  9. It is quite the pendulum swing to function over form :p
     
  10. banjeaux bob
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    I'd rather get in that Morgan outhouse than one with one of those low canvas tops and no side curtains.
     
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  11. 64 DODGE 440
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    Something special about form over function, but I admit the practicality of that coupe appeals to me.
     
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    While doing some more digging on the Morgan-GN question, I came on some interesting stuff:

    A speedway midget built in the UK by Jean Reville before 1935:
    upload_2019-11-3_2-45-51.jpeg It had a 4ft 5in wheelbase, modified BSA engine and 12 in. wheels on BSA front-drive hubs. It drove the front wheels directly by chain, having neither gearbox nor brakes(!) The wheel the boy is resting his arm on is a stock BSA front-drive wheel.

    In 1935, he replaced it with the Gnat:
    upload_2019-11-3_3-4-8.jpeg This had a 5ft wheelbase and a JAP twin.

    He announced a production version of the Gnat for £165.
    upload_2019-11-3_3-12-50.jpeg A few were produced before Reville captained the British team that toured Australia in 1936 and Reville decided to stay.

    The speedway car to beat in 1936 was the Skirrow, which we looked at on p.291:
    upload_2019-11-3_3-27-37.jpeg

    Here's a survivor in the middle of a restoration:
    upload_2019-11-3_3-28-33.jpeg

    And now for something (almost) completely different:
    Dorcas, which we saw most recently on p.358, seen here in 1934:
    upload_2019-11-3_2-35-26.jpeg The engine was said to be a 1925 JAP KTOR.
     
  14. SR100
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    125.jpg
    Most versions of this pic online have this caption:
    "C.W. Cooper of Surbiton drives the miniature racing car he built for his son John. The tiny car is fitted with a 1.25 hp two-stroke engine and can travel up to 52 mph, 1935" Even with a 'Brooklands can' exhaust, I find that improbable.
     
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  15. fredvv44
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    Down hill in a hurricane, maybe.
     
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  16. SR100
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    Old Charley Cooper actually liked his son, so he wouldn't give him a fast, top-heavy car on pram wheels...
    I'd guess 5mph would be closer to reality for 1.25hp, given the car's weight and lack of a gearbox (at least as far as we can tell).
     
  17. banjeaux bob
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  18. fredvv44
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    WOW, nice modeling. There is a whole group called "fine scale modeling". Interesting stuff.
     
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  19. banjeaux bob
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  20. Speaking of modeling, check out Gerald Wingrove’s models. His talent is astounding!
     
  21. noboD
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    Unfortunately Gerald died recently. His website may still be up, his cars look real!. Also, if you like modeling go to papermolders.com. These guys build insane stuff out of paper.
     
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    I had come to identify that flat deck pointed tail as BSA.
    Learning as I go.
     
  24. fredvv44
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    On the Morgan 3 wheel forum they said it was a Family model that was modified and raced.
     
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    Don't know much about this, taken off the internet, looks like a good idea.
     
  27. SR100
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    Four 'convert your bicycle to electric' motorized wheels and what looks like the lid to a car-top carrier for a body. No suspension to speak of and poor steering geometry. Hope that chassis isn't conduit...
    I applaud home builders who go for it and build from the ground up, but this will need to be completely redone if it is to have the slightest bit of comfort or controllability.
     
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  28. banjeaux bob
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  29. 64 DODGE 440
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    1800cc twin...WOW! Long way from the 1955 R69 I had back in the 1970s.
     
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