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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by harlowj, Sep 26, 2019.

  1. harlowj
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    Ok, in traditional fashion, I purchase a vehicle that has been apparently made from one off parts created from monks.. that is the only explanation other than just having bad luck.

    I need help to try and determine what master cylinder this is in my 35 ford (obviously not original). The casting says fe-34429 and made in the u.s.a but that is all I got in terms of markings.

    I've reach out to dorman, cardone, raybestoes, and bendix with no luck. Good ol google comes up blanks as well.

    The reason this one is so special is that it connects under the dash and via 3 bolts to the firewall where there is a hole / cap to fill the reservoir.

    Fingers crossed, any of you seen one like this?
     

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  2. harlowj
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    We've had a small breakthrough!

    Wagner is who produced it. However, it's no longer offered so now it's all about finding a rebuild kit!
     
  3. squirrel
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    If you take it out of the car and take some pictures that show the whole thing, we might be able to help more easily!

    And you can see the bore size, and figure out what kit will work
     
  4. harlowj
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    Ok. Took a while but here are some pictures.
     

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  5. squirrel
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    That's a weird one, all right! No idea what it's from
     
  6. I would have to dig in the barn which is stacked to the roof right now but it resembles the masters on a 48 nash setup I got.
     
  7. squirrel
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    Nothing like that shows up on the google, when I search for Nash master cylinders.

    Looks like it mounted directly under a floor? or under a cowl lip? Very strange.
     
  8. squirrel
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    btw what kind of car is it in? That might help figure it out?
     
  9. harlowj
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    Yep, it's my luck! If you google it, you will only find this post. LOL

    I is in a 1935 ford but mounted up under the firewall (under the dash). It was a custom type of thing so that's why I'm trying to find another or a rebuild kit.

    One guy at wagner told me is was a 1" bore and 1" 11/32 stroke.

    Thanks guys for helping me!
     
  10. harlowj
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    i was hoping to find an old wagner catalog or something to cross reference.
     
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    Usually the only things you really need are the rubber cups (and possibly sleeving), but they are pretty difficult to find as open stock. Anyone know of a source?

    For every standard O.D. master cylinder cup there are a couple of hole sizes and thicknesses.
     
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  14. squirrel
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    I might try to find another Wagner master cylinder with the same bore size and get a kit for it, and see how the parts compare. But you might want to do something else.
     
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  15. Years ago we had a (old at that time) forklift at work that had a really similar under floor master; so it is possible it was not a production car part.
     
  16. harlowj
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    ok, i can start my looking!
     
  17. My Wagner illustrated guide doesn't have anything like that (it's from 1991). Maybe it's a industrial unit. Maybe either get it rebuilt or swap it, I have 2 from Chrysler with pedals on them but they bolt to the frame through the side.
     
  18. harlowj
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    thanks for looking. I think it's probably a 1940 something.
     
  19. Try N. B> Pease & Co., Palmer, Mass. Nelson specializes in N.O.S. mechanical parts. 1-413-283-7620. He is closed on Wednesdays. Tell him Nick told you to contact him.
     
  20. Rick S
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  21. squirrel
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    wow, good find!
     
  22. ob1? or obi wan?
     
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  23. studebakerjoe
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    20191029_221307.jpg Checked my 1944 Wagner catalog but didn't find the part number used in that ebay listing or a pic that matches. I'll check some of my others to see if I find anything.
     
  24. FE34429 is a Wagner Casting Number and crosses to a FE33999 Master Cylinder with a 1" bore & 1 11/32" stroke and was used on a 1960/61 Chev Corvair.
     
  25. Napa kit #234

    Damn, that was a good one. My book had like 10 pages of single masters (back to the 40's)...but not that one.

    corvair.jpg
     
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  26. squirrel
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    wow, I never would have thought that. The 63 Corvair uses a normal cylinder, same as the Chevy II, etc.
     
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    Clark's Corvair shows it C2411 $96.90
     
  29. harlowj
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    WOW!!!!!! I owe you folks a beverage! You found it! THANK YOU!! You folks have no idea how helpful you have been. I was getting depressed!
     
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