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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Belair235, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Belair235
    Joined: Aug 1, 2019
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    Belair235

    For some reason I keep getting drawn back to building an inline six for my 62 Belair. It has a 235 and an old cast iron powerslide, found out that no real power to be made there. So... I thought a small block would do and it would, can't beat the bang for the buck. But that's not what I really want, like I said on a previous post... I want to build at least one inline before age catches me. So I'm going to pick this up Saturday morning! A 250 inline, if it's rebuildable, I've got something to work with. I'll roll the dice on a $100 what the hell, if nothing else it will be a good little road trip and some quality time with my dad to boot! Next on the list is figuring out what transmission to back it up with. Screenshot_20191002-195312_Facebook.jpeg

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  2. johnnymac1
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    I said the same thing, finally built a 250, and I like it, have fun
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  3. oldiron 440
    Joined: Dec 12, 2018
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    I think a 6 with a 4 speed would be a good time.:)
     
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  4. Belair235
    Joined: Aug 1, 2019
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    Belair235

    Got a clutch and break pedal assembly on a shelf, considering all possibilities.

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  5. Belair235
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    Belair235

  6. johnnymac1
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    I used a 10.5 flywheel and bell, hooked to an 86 IROC T5 Borg five speed, PM me if you want any details. I'm looking at a tic over 300 horse.
     
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  7. skot71
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    I gotta follow this and see where it goes for obvious reasons. See my avatar.
     
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  8. Blues4U
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    300 horses out of a naturally aspirated 250 L6? That's impressive. I didn't think it was possible
     
  9. jimmy six
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    I ran a Vega Saginaw 4 speed with a 3.11 low behind one with out a problem. Fun to drive. There were a lot of 63-64 Bel-Aire- Biscaynes built with 3-sp sixes using 230" so y-not.....
     
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  10. oldiron 440
    Joined: Dec 12, 2018
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    I like the idea myself. A slightly warmed up six with duels sounds cool, and a 4 or 5 speed would just be fun.
     
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  11. David Chandler
    Joined: Jan 27, 2007
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    Yes, and ditch the old powerglide too. I had a Chevelle with a 250 and a aluminum glide, I couldn't kill it. Finally rust did it in though.
     
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  12. JeffB2
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    You can bolt up a 200R4 to the 250 6 cyl and you will have a deeper first gear and overdrive for highway cruising.
     
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  13. 52HardTop
    Joined: Jun 21, 2007
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    T-5 behind my 235 is a bunch of fun to drive. It sounds great, moves along just fine and is an eye opener when I lift the hood to show her off. Anyone can have a small block. The six is full of kool in my book!
     
  14. v8flat44
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    Belair235, google Illine Six Performance....may inspire a cool engine..... mike
     
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  16. jhexide
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    Turbo350 Behind mine
     
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  17. johnnymac1
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    Check 12bolt.com , look around the site, check the dyno video, pretty cool,
     
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  18. ol-nobull
    Joined: Oct 16, 2013
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    engine - drivers side.JPG Hi. Both the 235 & 250 are great engines and you can about anything with either. My Avitar photo shows my 235 engine in my 46 chevy coupe. Bored 0.060 with a 268 grind Clifford cam with all engine internals new. Running Clifford water heated dual intake with two big 2 barrel Weber carbs along with the Clifford shorty tube headers. Had to run their headers as Fenton's are too big to fit behind that thick intake. Had stock 3 on tree & 355 ring & pinion. Tranny finally gave up the ghost and I got talked into a T350 with a 57 pickup rear end with 307 gears as my coupe is mostly a Hwy cruiser as I live way out in the country. Worst mistake I ever made on that tranny. T350 a total POS. When I get cash together I am going back to standard 3 or 4 speed tranny because with original tranny & 355 rear at 65 MPH I was getting 20+ MPG. With the T350 and 307 rear millage dropped to barely 10 MPG. Car ran great with both set ups, just lost too much gas millage with the supposed upgrade. I will never race it, just want a good cruiser.
    Clifford carries speed parts for both the 235 & 250 engines.
    Good luck, Jim
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  19. Belair235
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    Belair235

    Thanks everyone for the good information, and advice! Got a lot of irons in the fire right now so it's going to be a slow build. That's good because it will give me time to gather parts, do plenty of brain picking, and research to get it right the first time! Thanks and I do welcome advise and research sources. If ya got pics of your inlines I'd love to see them!
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  21. Rusty Heaps
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    Nothing wrong with a 235, lots of performance parts to be had. I have one in my '46 coupe from a '61 Belair.
     
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  22. Mr48chev
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    The great thing with the 250 is that all you have to do is find the mounts of a 63/64 full size Chevy with a 230 and it's a bolt in.
    I put a lot of mile on my 48 with a 250 in it so I'm rather partial to them although it is going back together with a 292 this time.
    12 Bolt Tom is good for performance pieces and the cast headers that Tom Langdon sold plus some other pieces after Langdon downsized his operation.
    https://mrhotrod6.myshopify.com/pages/frontpage is another 194/230/250/292 performance parts purveyor with some nifty speed goodies.
     
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  23. Hnstray
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    How did you arrive at “a tic over 300 hp”? Is that calculated hp or measured on a dyno?

    Reason I ask, I recently built/had built a 250, .060 over, V8 flat top pistons, mild torque cam, full roller rockers, 12Bolt.com cast manifold/headers, full lump port mod, Aussiespeed manifold w/Edelbrock AVS2 500 cfm carb and few more minor goodies........on the dyno it pulled 258 lbs ft torque @ 3000 rpm and 228 hp on the @ 5200 rpm after break-in runs but no special tuning. (3000 to 5200 is the only recorded range on the dyno print out)

    I am fairly happy with that, but if there is more hp lurking in the engine I’d be interested in knowing where to look for it. Seventy or so hp seems like a lot of difference between two very similar builds.

    Ray

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  24. chriseakin
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    What about the GMC 292 6 cylinders or are they too rare and old?
     
  25. Hnstray
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    No to both questions. I have a couple 292 cores, but chose the 250 for several reasons, none monumental. Lighter weight, lower height, adequate for intended use( Street driving/‘37 Chevy Coupe)

    The 292 is a torque monster and would be terrific where that is of greater importance. Order a copy of Leo Santucci’s book on building the 194/230/250/292 engines. Covers all the how and why’s for whatever your purpose may be.

    Ray
     
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  26. Belair235
    Joined: Aug 1, 2019
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    Belair235

    I'm sure not getting rid of the 235 and powerglide by any means, I'm gonna save it back just in case I ever get to build a bobber truck.

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  27. Belair235
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    Belair235

    I'm going to save the 235 and powerglide for something down the road.
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  28. Belair235
    Joined: Aug 1, 2019
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    Belair235

    I see why! My $200 Belair sitting where I found it. 20190719_152138.jpeg

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  29. saltflats
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
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    If and when you get to this project, I have engine mounts for the 250.
     
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  30. There is not any difference between a chevy or a GMC 292 six cyl engine. Now the fifties and older GMC engines wher quite different from a chev 6. they came in 228 .248. 270 and 302 cubes.
     
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