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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by jmkporsche, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. jmkporsche
    Joined: Jan 6, 2019
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    jmkporsche

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    Found some old zoomies in my dad's collection to put on the Hilborn build. They are definitely going to need some straightening and some cleanup of the welds. These were on the motor in his rail back in the early 70's. That's probably the last time they were on a running motor. Although this build is not my current priority, I will post updates when they happen.
     
  2. mgtstumpy
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    If there's a serial # on the intake, I believe HILBORN can authenticate the history of the unit.
     
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  3. jmkporsche
    Joined: Jan 6, 2019
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    jmkporsche

    I had heard that as well. It is #237 which if I am not mistaken is the 227th one made. I have sent a request to Hilborn for any information they may have. I will update with their reply.


    Sent from my iPhone using H.A.M.B.
     
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  4. 41rodderz
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    This will be cool to learn the history. I hope?
     
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  5. 392
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    Good stuff. I’m in.
     
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  6. quickchangeV8
    Joined: Dec 7, 2010
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    Yes, Hilborn will tell you the exact date it was sold and who they sold it to. Really good people at Hilborn Engineering.
     
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  7. jmkporsche
    Joined: Jan 6, 2019
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    jmkporsche

    Hilborn has been unable to find the paperwork on this so far, but has told me they will continue to look and send me the info when they have it. I guess this is the universe telling me, "Enough of the side-project distractions, get the roadster done already!"
     
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  8. jmkporsche
    Joined: Jan 6, 2019
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    Found this while going through some paperwork my dad gave me :) Sold on 4/15/1958 to Packard Speed Equipment in Pawtucket, RI. I am hoping someone on HAMB might know a little about this speed shop. My internet searches have not turned up anything yet.
     
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  9. alchemy
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    A 315 cu flathead?! That's huge!
     
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  10. jmkporsche
    Joined: Jan 6, 2019
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    Got the PDF from Hilborn. They have some exceptional people working there. What great customer service! It’s cool to see this in color.

    Anyone know anything about Packard Speed Equipment in Pawtucket or any famous flathead powered racers built in that area in 1958?

    I have been searching the internet and combing through old pictures to see if anything turns up, but so far this is all I have.
     
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  11. Pete1
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    It was in the "olden dayz" but not today. 321 is fairly common and there are a couple of 352's around.
     
  12. alchemy
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    What’s it take to make a 321? I’m guessing a 352 has a lot of welding done to the block.
     
  13. Pete1
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    A 321 is just a billet 4.5 inch crank and a 3.375 bore. No special machine work or welding.
    A 352 is a 3.438 bore and a 4.750 billet crank. Some grinding on the block to clear the rods but nothing exotic.
     
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  14. hotcoupe
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    Hey Pete, with the breathing problems of a flathead ford, it seems that a flat head of 352 c. i. would be a case of deminishing return. How tight would a motor that size spin?
    Tom
     
  15. Pete1
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    from Wa.

    7K, twice a lap.
     
  16. seb fontana
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    Pulling a grenade pin twice a lap, lol..Can't beleive the ports serviced the cubes!
     
  17. Pete1
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    Haven't lost one yet. The ports are slightly bigger than stock.....lol
     
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  18. 97
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    You could start here
    https://www.nemsmuseum.com/the_team.html

    Particularly with Ric Mariscal and Bob Silvia, but any of those people at this Museum may have the information you need.
     
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  19. banjorear
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    So great!
     
  20. 97
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    Hey Pete,
    I thought there was a video somewhere of you racing your roadster ... quite a number of laps at high revs and sideways, but I cannot find it. Where was it posted? Did I see one online somewhere or is that just my own fantasy?
     
  21. flatnoseturbo
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    from ontario

    I have #250 on my 3 7/16 x 4 1/8 motor (no sleeves!) Scary! Boils in a minute on gas so Hilborns set up for alcohol. Haven't had the nerve to fire it.
     
  22. Pete1
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
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    from Wa.

    It was on the West Coast Vintage Racers website but I can't bring it up right now.
     
  23. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
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    Yeah thanks Pete, that's where I looked , I was pretty sure it wasn't a figment of my imagination!!! I thought I had saved it to my hard drive, but probably just bookmarked it....From my recollection it was pretty awesome . It was you mentioning 7000rpm that triggered the memory. :D
     

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