Technical Early Frankland Quick Changes

I can’t seem to find any information on these.
Are these good for building?
What carrier do they use?
The axles are from early for 3/4-1ton fords?
Parts available?
Is the bolt pattern the regular ford wide 5?

Thanks in advance for the info.

 

Yes.
3/4 ton Ford and some old Stude.
Yes, or aftermarket. Uses two housings of the same side off that Ford.
Yes.
The race hubs are the same BP as early wide five Ford. But the studs are probably 5/8"

 

What year are you thinking that quickie is....? I have one on my bedroom floor with big hurst air heart brakes and Detroit locker....is it a QC80....?

 

It has to be late 50s early 60s? Model QC-80

 

Follow the Quick Change thread on here....lots of good info. Yours looks like a late 60''s or 70's.....they used them in the 80's as well. Just picked up another one with Wildwood disk brakes set up. Speedway has them in their catalog as well.

 

I have a 3/4 ton rear end I'll sell

 

Yes. It’s a QC-80. What do you think I should do with it? Worth rebuilding or sell and invest in a new Street Winters with steel bells?

The tubes need to be redone. Should I go with 5X5.5” BP and 9” ford tubes/axles? MT brakes?


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They are good rear ends I run one in my willys pickup I bought a used gold track differential off the evil bay for super cheap and changed axle ends and use 9” axles


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yep....picked up another with the Winters wide five disk brake set up......

 

By the time you change the tubes, backing plates, brakes and axles, (those are 12 spline) and probably a spool, you might find someone rebuilding an old circle track car and sell it. That way you can get what you desire, in a new one. Just my thoughts.

 

Alchemy and Marty have it right. That rear end can be made to work just fine. Is it worth it? Only you can determine that. The deciding factor for me would be if it has a differential and if the R&P are good. Of it's a spool and the Ring and Pinion are junk, you would be better off to part it out. The Buick Drums and brakes are the most valuable pieces.

As far as the date, Frankland dated some of their cases. The upper link bracket tells me that it is probably later than the 60's and could be well into the 80's. The iron bells were pretty obsolete by the late 70's.

If you want a new Winters, private message me!

 

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

 

I have an old Frankland QC in my '27 T roadster. It is out of my retired late model dirt stock car from the 80's. I polished the center section. I had to shorten the right side axle tube and buy a shorter right side axle. Had to have one custom made because of the old spline configuration. I run old Coleman W5 hubs. It still has the spool in it. The whole time I was building it, I kept wondering if it would push the front end around corners and I would have to put in a diff. I didn't. It works perfectly. The only noticeable thing is when I make a sharp, slow turn on slick asphalt, I hear a little tire chirp. When it launches, it goes straight.

 

I like it. People get scared to run a spool on the street. Several guys I know do it and it shouldn’t be an issue if you know how to drive.

 

Yeah. You can't run a spool on the street! . I have almost 20 K miles on the car and never a problem. I have even been caught in the rain with cheater slicks. Just use your head instead of your right foot.

 

Look closer buddy. The hubs are 39-41 Ford 3/4 and 1 ton STEEL See the rust. This rear must have weighed 400lbs.

 

Rain is certainly a factor. Er, that... and the UNSPRUNG WEIGHT!

 

I know we are revitalizing an old thread, but I found out a couple years back that guys are now running heavy wall axle tubes to gain forward traction. It's not legal here locally, and I saw two guys get disqualified for it one night.

 

Heavy axle tubes. What kind of racing?

 

Racing where they hit the walls.

 

IMCA modifieds, it had my friend wondering about modifying his 9 inch stock car housing to get the same effect. I had ways been told, and followed the advice, to keep unsprung weight to a minimum. I have heard that since the late '70's, when subframed late models hit the scene, and big block power was abandoned along with full production frames. When they did this after-race inspection I spoke of, I was astounded, but the first and second place cars were running those heavy wall tubes, and were handling quite well, better than the 20 odd guys that followed them to the flag. I know you have way more knowledge than I, when did this become a thing?

 

I had a QC-80 in my '32 roadster for over a decade. Ran great. Franklin is still in business. I believe they are in Pennsylvania. All the parts are available. Bought new Dutchman axles for 5×5-1/2" bc. They whine a small amount but just enough to let you know they are there.
Price out repair, they are neat units.
Good luck