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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by LKPar1270, Apr 20, 2019.

  1. LKPar1270
    Joined: Oct 31, 2008
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    Can anyone identify this frame for me? My next build will be a Speedster based on a 20s to early 30s Chevrolet. I was hoping this was a Chev frame, but the lack of a hump for the rear suspension has me stumped. 20190420_154246.jpg 20190420_142848.jpg
     
  2. Stan Back
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    from California

    I'll name it . . .

    "Rusty"
     
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  3. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    I name it Ralph
     
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  4. 1393B7E6-4887-4B2C-A90D-25E569999201.jpeg

    I’ll name it dodge !
     
  5. Hollywood-East
    Joined: Mar 13, 2008
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    Very well might be Willing an able depending on HP., But ya it's Dodge.. Rite
     
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  6. Probably not Dodge Brothers with no rear riser.
     
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  7. Looks more like a mid to late teens car with the straight rails.
     
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  8. Desmodromic
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    Chevy rails were straight (viewed from above), but had axle kick-ups at each end, at least the latest ones (c1930) during that period. I have a c1918 Buick frame that is similar to this (but not the same). This one looks like maybe the rear springs were attached to the frame at their front end, pivoted at the mid-point from the chassis, and attached to the axle at the back. I think some Bugatties were sprung this way.

    Unless your dead set on a Chevy frame, I think this would do perfectly. I'd use the front in the back, cut the frame before where you'ld like the rear axle to be, make a short curved transition piece to get higher but "natural" looking rear kick-up (as opposed to a hokey looking pie or mitre cut). Use a cross spring (Model T?) in the front.
     
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  9. catdad49
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    "Sticks"
     
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  10. dan31
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    May help if you take a close up pic of front frame horns and give height of frame ,overall length and width. That looks like a pretty big drop in the front cross member,maybe it;s just the pic.
     
  11. LKPar1270
    Joined: Oct 31, 2008
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    I agree with you Desmodromic, this frame will do just fine for what I want. This build is probably not actually going to start until next fall, but the thought process is in full swing. I want to stay with Chevy style front springs. Thinking maybe quarter elliptic rear springs with the axles hanging out a little past the back of the frame.
    Yes Dan31, that front cross member is quite deep, will probably modify that some. I'll take more pictures when I get the chance.
     
  12. LKPar1270
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    A little more info on the mystery frame. It's 118 3/4 inches front spring mount to end offrame, 29 inches wide at front and 41 3/8 inches wide ar the rear, bottom of the cross member to top of frame is 9 1/4 inches. There is an aluminum tag riveted to the rear right hand side of the frame that reads:
    90 CC
    80743
    What ever this went to had mechanical brakes, though there is no indication they went to the front wheels.
    Here are a few more pictures
    20190421_100609.jpg 20190421_092750.jpg 20190421_093139.jpg 20190421_092140.jpg
     
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  13. LKPar1270
    Joined: Oct 31, 2008
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    Frame make solved. Was at a car show and saw a Willys Overland Speedster, 1916. It had exactly my frame, right down to location of manual brakes, rear suspension set up, measurements and VIN location. That's pretty cool, as a pre 1920s speedster was my plan all along.
     
  14. jetnow1
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    Thanks for the follow up, does not happen often enough!
     
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  15. catdad49
    Joined: Sep 25, 2005
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  17. choptop40
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    That’s a rare bird find ….Speedster ..
     
  18. dana barlow
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  19. choptop40
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    weighs about 100 lbs ?
     
  20. LKPar1270
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    20220514_082230.jpg 20220514_082230.jpg This is a 1916 Willys Overland Speedster, exactly the same frame I have.
     
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  21. Flathead Dave
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    Probably a Willys Overland Speedster
     
  22. LKPar1270
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  23. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
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    Speedsters. The first hot rods.
    1916! Look at that thing!
    Wow.
     

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