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  1. The37Kid
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    Just found a January 1960 issue of Car Craft in the basement with a feature on the Excaliber built by Ed Roth. Is there a story behind it being renamed The Outlaw? I like the wire wheels and topless Out Law better. What Roth car used a Civil War saber for a shift lever, I remember that feature from the early 1960 when I saw the car in the New York Coliseum show.

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    I've always wondered where he put the radiator.
     
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    F253019B-8618-46CC-B580-084D3A9601A9.jpeg 5ABF951C-2EA5-4765-80A6-438EA2CA03BE.jpeg Roth said he changed the name to Outlaw in 1960 because people couldn’t pronounce the name Excalibur. The radiator is from a 3 cylinder German car called a Dkw and it is behind the grill and you can see it hanging below the frame in some pics
     
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    Maybe the Roth spelling of it had something to do with it? :confused:
    Bob
     
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    Even in January 1960, they were calling it "traditional".
     
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    Always thought using that sword for the shifter was the cats nuts! Moriarity your version is just beautiful!
     
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    The horn in the one photo cracks me up.
     
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    I’ll have to see if I can dig up some photos of Marks car in construction. Always thought it was super cool.
     
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    Awesome. I don’t think anything has paint on it in my photos
     
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    what photos do you have?
     
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    Ones I took winter of.... 2001 ish maybe? They were in black and white film. I’ve got them in a book somewhere I’m sure.
     
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    Looks like I only took one of the outlaw and a bunch of the futurian 6301244B-5F53-4272-88F1-E9897642E539.jpeg 48F5C51D-20FB-4200-AC72-D8AEC1E61026.jpeg
     
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    I feel like at the time you’d just found or were tying to find the dodge windshield frame, I remember talk about the sword shifter as well.

    @Tman got one of those baby aluminum nail heads from you, I think that’s how we all ended up at your place. @Tuck had his black Galaxy on a trailer with out the front clip on it I can’t remember if he came over with us.
     
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    So it was The Excaliber / Outlaw that had the sword shifter, I couldn't have been over 12 years old when I saw the car. Funny how details like that stick in your memory. Bob
     
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    I wonder if this was the same weekend that @PasoJohn had the Hamb xmas party at his place in Edina and I think @Tman ran the bbq grill there. and didn't @Tuck have the front clip off his galaxie because he had had a clutch explosion or something??
     
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    Yup I’ve got pictures of most of that. Junk yard dog 32 showed up in his five window, @Rocky was there and loads of others. Think Stevie D was there... having a hard time remembering more names at the moment. It was an entirely different era of hamb haha
     
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    Is that a pan hard bar?
     
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    yes it is. it is needed because of the coil springs
     
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    6A473DB8-32A6-4A11-8DFE-F0429CB2161D.jpeg 01705901-8F51-4D53-BEDC-5637764A872E.jpeg FF023E0D-FFED-467C-80C9-003915A08448.jpeg 6DCED372-4E25-4104-A74C-C61C022E05E4.jpeg DA9D88B6-9174-4692-A8C0-EA59583586E2.jpeg Found some more construction pictures
     
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    Love it. Seeing “big mess, big success” on your door was burnt into my brain for the rest of my life haha
     
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    Hey, Some very very cool pics I haven't seen. Thanx, Tim and Moriarity!
     
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