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Ford 427 SOHC engines

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  1. mgtstumpy
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  2. Stumpy............I have just gone thru those SOHC pics from you about half a dozen.....now 10 times trying to choose which one I like best..........and I can't .........so all of them will have to do........lol.........tho' the Prudhomme, Kalitta and Robinson shots just about answer it........the way the blowers sit just at the same level as the chain cover filling the top of the engine, a perfect symmetry........the first SOHC I ever saw was at a Roselands, NSW Hot Rod Show maybe 1969 or 1970, a blown engine in a boat.........they are a beautiful engine.....andyd
     
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    A local chopped English Ford Cortina gasser with 427SOHC power, it's been around for a long time and was earlier SBF powered
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  5. And supposedly these numbers were underrated. Imagine where we would be in NHRA Top Fuel and Funny Car today if only Ford had the vision. Oh well none are running factory stuff as it was all banned when Eddie Hill split one during his famous last ride. I recently took the following ad to my local parts man and ordered three of each and said I was paying cash. He got on his corporate parts locator. Everything in the ad came back as, "Obsolete, not available". If there are any out there, they know what they have.

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    I tried. He did say that although unlikely there could have been one somewhere, sitting, brand new, dust covered, on a shelf. He did say "good luck getting anything on that ad at those prices". I said, "Don I'll charge Ford with false advertising and own this joint." We reflected on the old days and if we had the foresight, and money. Oh well, we had neither.
     
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    Here's another reference to the authors, FAUSTYN and EASTMAN, in the bibliography of below publication citing another document, "New Ford High-Performance Engine has Single Overhead Camshaft", SAEJ 73, October 1965, pp. 92-93'. Again anyone have access to that document, more reading? :D

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    E-Bay NOS cammer back in 2013, https://www.dragzine.com/news/original-ford-427-sohc-crate-engine-on-ebay-for-65000/
    According to Lee HOLMAN (Holman & Moody) at one stage it was selling SOHCs for $1,000.00 just to liquidate them :eek::eek: https://www.stangtv.com/features/shop-tours/shop-tour-holman-and-moody-ford-performance-history/
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    Didn't Bob Glidden run a big cammer engine in a Probe(can I say that on HAMB!?)
    I remember seeing him do a bye run in that car. No other engines running just his run. Lifted the front tires on the launch (about 18")and was mid track and tire was still up(and NOT spinning) before he set it down going into 4th gear.
    NEVER...I mean NEVER will I forget that moment. Arrow straight...pedal pinned...cammer motor screaming...front tire (NOT SPINNING) going by me with my mouth hung open and drooling like a full blown idiot.
    Amazing
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    This shot by mgtstumpy just rings my bell for some reason. There are so many good ones it would be very hard to just pick one for a favorite. :)

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    The SOHC Ford as a Top Fuel engine. They did seem to have a slight advantage over the 392 Hemi (typically running with 398 cubic inches). Many chalked it up to the OHC design. When you did the calculations at the time (mid 1960's), it appeared that the punched out 392 Hemis were making around 1,600 HP, or 4 horsepower per cubic inch. Using the same formulas on the 427 Ford SOHC, the extra 30 cubes (at 4 HP per cubic inch) gave them an extra 100 horsepower. I have always believed it was the extra displacement that gave them an advantage, and not the camshaft set-up. When the 426 Hemi started showing up in Top Fuel diggers, the SOHC advantage kind of went away...
     
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    Ford built a handful of Galaxies with the 427 SOHC. they were labeled as prototype cars, but they were built and delivered to customers (one went to astronaut Gordon Cooper).
    As we all know, this was an engine so powerful that Chrysler petitioned NASCAR to ban it because it would have made mincemeat out of their new 426 Hemi. NASCAR bent to Chrysler's whining and the engine never competed. Ford rated it at ca. 660hp with a dual-quad intake. Actual dyno runs indicate it did even better than that.
     
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    The 427 SOHC was not banned by NASCAR. That is a common myth.
    Truth is the rules were written to require the Fords to add weight to the cars in an attempt to level the playing field with Chrysler. That rule made Ford decide to revert to running the push rod 427.
     
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  14. NASCAR was unhappy that the OEMs were bringing in exotic 'race only' motors and diluting their 'stock car' image (with the emphasis on 'stock'). The SOHC, Hemi, and the GM 'mystery motor' all fell into this category. My, how things have changed... LOL.

    Initially, NASCAR applied a weight penalty to the Ford motor but later in the year demanded that all the manufacturers had to produce and sell a minimum number (500 IIRC) of these in actual production cars. That's why the Hemi disappeared until 1966; it took Chrysler two years to come up with a detuned street version. This wasn't really an option for Ford as the motors supposedly cost Ford about $10K each to build. There wasn't much market for $13000 Ford Galaxies in '64...
     
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    A Little 40 Willys Coupe in the works. Slow but sure...
     

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    More pictures please!!!!..... :)
     
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  20. ^^^^^^^^^^^^That is completely AWESOME^^^^^^^^^^:D:)
     
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  21. If you don't feel something in your gut when you watch that video, check your pulse!:eek::)
     
  22. As seen in Detroit this weekend... 20D0C82F-2751-45D8-AA5D-475EFBB79FC8.jpeg
     
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    Guess Neil Young don't like to have his picture taken..... :mad::rolleyes:
     
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  25. Old people look crabby naturally
     
  26. I remember during the late 1980's a buddy of mine, Steve Daniele was wheeling and dealing Ford Cammer engines. He used my pick-up truck to deliver 1 to California, and he brought another one home to Connecticut in my truck. He had an all aluminum engine, polished, injected, that came from a Henry- J gasser type show car. He sold that one to someone overseas. Steve also had a Torino fast back that was originally built with a Boss 429 engine. It was 1 of 3 prototypes, built. They all had an extended front nose.Bud Grant had one, I believe bud's was called the King Torino. But I don't know who had the third one, someone down south. I know that Steve contacted the owner down south, and went down south to have a fiberglass nose made for his Torino, and a spare nose for the other guy's. Steve's Torino was supposedly given to David Pearson by Ford Motor company. Steve also had a Boss Mustang that he sold for short money before the prices got crazy.

     
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    I did a Porsche 916 for this guy in 1981, body came in on a rolling table. Nothing but perfection accepted.
     
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    I'd sure like the problem of making this fit my 64 Fairlane!
     
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