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History Leonard high compression spark plugs?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by theHIGHLANDER, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. theHIGHLANDER
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    So I have something only the detail freaks would notice or appreciate. A set of 8 Leonard 14 F "High Compression" spark plugs. They're all side gapped, which according to an image search is how they were made. They're 14mm and will fit my flatty once I clean the threads. Frankly I can't remember what I took them out of but they were too kool to toss away and actually fire despite the existing crud. I'm well aware of the 'useless w/out pics' rule so I'll take some later or tomorrow and add them here. I also did some searching for history and all I found was that they're in the Smithsonian in some way and listed/cataloged, but no story. When all else fails the best source is, you guessed it, right here. I'll take all the info that's fit to print. I promise, pics soon. No really, I will.

    Quick edit: the Smithsonian has their catalog on file in the the library. Didn't see anything about actual plugs.
     
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  2. The37Kid
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    Photos, that's The Point.

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  3. ROADSTER1927
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    Still Waiting-----LOL Gary:D leonard.jpg leonard b.jpg
     
  4. blowby
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    Ah I get it, I think. The side gap clears the block/valves/pistons on high compression engines? I had to shim up the plugs in my 60 to keep from closing the gap.
     
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  5. slowmotion
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    No indexing required to boot. Cool!
     
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  6. Deuces
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    That's worth about 5 ponies or better.... ;)
     
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  7. tubman
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    When I was a kid, we heard about "hi-compression hubcaps", but this a new one on me!
     
  8. blowby
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    Anyone interested in some high lift connecting rods?
     
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  9. ROADSTER1927
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    OK, when does Soon expire? LOL Gary:D
     
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  10. theHIGHLANDER
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    I might A-B-A test these plugs and see if they actually make a difference. Yes or no, I think they're kool. Found some old boxes online and they refer to the holes under the wire end as "air cooled". Kooky...
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  11. theHIGHLANDER
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    So nobody knows anything about these?
     
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  12. Deuces
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    I wouldn't mind trying one out on my Briggs and Stratton powered lawn mower.... ;)
     
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  13. ROADSTER1927
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    Sorry I just have the one plug in my collection and it fits my Harley single. Gary
     
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  14. I've heard of High Altitude flat heads, but not High Compression spark plugs.
     
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  15. theHIGHLANDER
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    Just so it's clear, I dont expect to set an El Mirage record with spark plugs. I thought they're kool, I'm a fan of side gaps, and to see one done that way from way back when is intriguing to say the least. I guess their history will remain fleeting and mysterious. I'ma run em anyways even if it doesn't make a diff. Should be a nice mate to the Holthouse coil.

    Lawn mowers, WTF...:eek:
     
  16. Deuces
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    Just kidding..... :D:oops:
     
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  17. Bigchuck
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    I know they look like they would make good fishin' weights!
     
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  19. TBone69
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    Bringing this thread back to the top, just discovered this thread looking for info on Leonard High Compression 5-HD plugs I found on a flea market $1 table.
     
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  20. theHIGHLANDER
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    Well I still have em, still gonna run em, still think they're kool as can be. These came off an old Packard and the guy wanted AC or Autolite (either is correct). I had to have them, "...it's you or toss em in the trash, I don’t want em.." so they're ready for my flatty. Still never found any info or historical references. Should look kool as fk under some Rajah plug tips;)
     
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  21. Johnny Gee
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    I think some dumb ass dropped a spark plug, had an idea then became a Millionaire. I mean really??? :D
     
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  22. TBone69
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    Found a little snippet from a FB spark plug collectors group. Looks like my 5-HD was primarily used in Boat Motors and Scooters

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  23. Atwater Mike
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    Bosch plugs for O-T 356 Porsches were 'side-gapped'. Electrode ground was shorter, pointed to the side of the electrode.
    Would have run them in my flatty, but who'd know??? A framed pic on the firewall might be appropo...:D
     
  24. theHIGHLANDER
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    For a bit of reference, I side gapped some NGKs in a hopped up 3cyl 2 stroke. Probably about a 165HP motor. All I could do is make back to back tests down the road. With the side gap plugs the thing went into notable over rev. I had to make a clutch adjustment to compensate. What's the point? In a small motor it made a difference I could feel. What I didn't like was that keeping it on the ragged edge wasn't sustainable when your 80 miles away and ready to burn shit up. Conversely I did it to my racer BBC. The use of side gaps in that one did nothing. Ran the exact same ET/MPH. I attribute the result to some fairly superior ignition to begin with. MSD vs old CDI 2 stroke. Back to these Leonard's, I think the kool factor makes the juice worth the squeeze.
     
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  25. I tried these "surface gap" plugs in my H-2 Kawasaki drag bike. They were supposed to be anti-fouling plugs, but I didn't have any fouling problems, I was looking for more power. They didn't make any more power.

    After I lightened the magneto, it wouldn't fire them any more, so I ran regular plugs. It ran a little faster, because of the lighter rotor.


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  26. lippy
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    So looking at the top of the plug, the wire was inserted in the hole under the cap and then the cap was tightened? My Dad had a Heath henderson 4 airplane conversion and I think thats where I saw those plugs. It was a Henderson 4 with the transmission sawed off and a prop hub fitted. Lippy
     
  27. TBone69
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    The little holes are for "Air Cooling"

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    Not my sign just a pic I gleaned off the net
     

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