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Technical Is this Flathead heavy duty oil pan worth saving?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ziggster, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Ziggster
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    After decreasing this thing this afternoon, I noticed a small rust oil in the forward edge of the pan which I wasn't expecting. It also was pierced by a fork lift which I knew about when I picked my flathead up. I figured I would try to fix the hole from the forklift, but after seeing this new rust hole, I'm not so sure about trying to salvage it. I'm still going to use a heavy duty pan as I like the industrial look of the large clean out on the bottom. Also, is the solder/lead? normal around the clean out? Thoughts?
    Forklift hole (outside)
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    Forklift hole (inside)
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    Rust hole (just above round hole)
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    Solder/lead around clean out opening
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  2. flatjack
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    Hand made cleanout, not factory.
     
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  3. oldiron 440
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    You would think that strating the metal in the pan you will not have to cut in patches. Should be an easy repair.
     
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  4. Ziggster
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    I think I saw the same pan at the machinist, but will check in the new year when he is back. The solder job looks a bit messy, but seems to have the same primer that is on rest of pan. Cannot find a pic of same clean out on google though.
     

  5. Ziggster
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    Not sure what you mean by strating?
     
  6. That is a Two Piece Canadian Truck Oil Pan. They made three Version of this Truck Pan. 1st with a Normal Small Drain Plug. 2nd with Large Steel Round Clean out Hole. 3rd with this Style Steel Clean out Shaped Plate Cover. It can be Fixed. But, that’s up to you. Do you have the Skills to Properly Repair it? Or decide to sell it to someone that can? FYI, I really like these Pans, & I prefer this Pan. Snap-On & Herbrand Tools make a Screw Jack Tool to jack up the Ford flathead Engine. These 2-Piece Pans Came on Commercial Trucks to change out Clutches, Flywheels, Flywheel Bearings. If your going on a Long distant Trip, you could carry this Tool with you. Best Regards BigDTexasKid


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  7. Ziggster
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    Yes, it's from a Canadian engine that was used as an industrial engine. I likely have the skills to repair it, but it will take me some time. I may see if I can source another first though. Thanks for the great info as there isn't much on internet that I could find.
     
  8. If you decide to sell it, PM me.
     
  9. quickchangeV8
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    Absolutely try and fix that oil pan!!! It is a factory Canadian truck oil pan with the large cleanout and very hard to find. I have an oil pan just like the one you have only mine is in mint condition. I saw one of these sell on ebay for over $500 a couple of years ago so if this pan was mine, I would try and bring it back to original condition.
     
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  10. Frankie47
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    Straightening would be my guess.
     
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  11. 1927Tudor
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    X2. Worth saving.
     
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  12. Ziggster
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    Ok. I'm going to see what I can do to fix this thing in the next week.
     
  13. Ziggster
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    Finally got around to straightening out the puncture. Happy with the result so far after a bit of hammering with my ball peen hammer, a block of steel, any my plumbers torch. I think I can get it almost back to original with a bit more work. This steel is tough. It looks as though it is almost 2mm thick.
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  14. Beanscoot
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    What's a "mm"?
     
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  15. Desmodromic
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    Millimeter ("off-topic" for USA Hambster traditionalists!) -- there are 25.4 mm in an inch, so 2 mm is .0787", which is about halfway between 14 gauge (.083", 2.108 mm) and 15 gauge (.072", 1.829 mm). By comparison, body panels are typically 19 gauge (.042", 1.06 mm). Hey, you're from Canada, you must know aboot this metric stuff, eh?
     
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  16. Ziggster
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    Been using metric since 6th grade. I'll measure thickness tonight.
     
  17. Desmodromic
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    Fork lift operators can piss you off. I have a pretty solid and otherwise straight 1938 Willys body that was picked up by a fork lift through the side windows, putting kinks in the door top and roof. Easily salvageable, but bodywork is not my forte!

    If you believe in Karma, check this out:

     
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  18. alanp561
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    Little round chocolate candy with a hard colored shell. "Melts in your mouth, not in your hands". Remember, now?;)
     
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  19. rusty valley
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    wow!! now that was fun! great fork driver
     
  20. Ziggster
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    Geeeze, the bugger is 2.5 mm thick!
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  21. Desmodromic
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    Oh.....I thought it was a rap singer!
     
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  22. Beanscoot
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    How much is 2.46 Eminems in inches?
     
  23. alanp561
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    0.0944881976378 and change:)
     
  24. Desmodromic
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    Or a melt-in-your-mouth 12.87 gauge.
     
  25. theHIGHLANDER
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    Gauge? mm? It's almost 1/8. 6mm is 1/4, 8mm is 5/16, and 11mm is 7/16. Can't use a 10mm wrench on anything but 10mm.

    That pan is the shit (or since rap was mentioned above the schizzle). So you giving it some repizzle and doing a wezelding job to put it back to use is kool n the gang. I like the industrial look too. Likely the solder isn't normal, just another repair from back in the day.
     
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  26. Ziggster
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    I'm going to do a bit more hammering, then I'll welder up and may do a bit of lead work to smooth it all out nice like.
     
  27. Ziggster
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    Some more pics I posted on Ford Barn concerning the vent tube. I think I now know what that tube is for.
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  28. Beanscoot
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    The forklift driver saved a few seconds by being careless, caused damage that takes a lot of work to fix.
    It should not be surprising that forklift drivers cause a lot of workplace injuries and deaths, too.
     
  29. I got 99 sockets, but a 10mm ain't one....

    Chappy
     
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  30. Tim
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    I’d be surprised if it didn’t kill that guy. Even if the product in the boxes were light.
     

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