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Hot Rods Who’s using original gas tank in Model A

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Smokeybear, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Smokeybear
    Joined: Apr 20, 2011
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    The gas tank in my model A is in pristine condition, but I’m hesitant to use it for safety reasons. (I know, first world problems, right?) Who’s running the original tank and hasn’t been burned alive in a crash. Just looking for some opinions. Thanks!
     
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  2. AngleDrive
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
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    from Florida

    One of my Hobby Members has an A with original tank. He was broadsided at stop sign and he and tank survived. He has electric pump mounted inside cab and shut off under tank on right side. Modified banger with Weber 2 barrel and drives it every place. Every Hot Rod is going to have 'what if' issues.
     
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  3. wingedexpress
    Joined: Dec 24, 2006
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    I drove my 1929 pickup about 100-150 miles a week for 5 years, no problems.
     
  4. Blues4U
    Joined: Oct 1, 2015
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    from So Cal

    If you asked this 2 months ago I would have answered "Me!", but after several years of running on the stock tank I made the decision to install a separate tank, so I no longer am using the stock tank and it is not plumbed in to the fuel system any longer. It's still there, but not being used.
     

  5. flatford39
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    Use your original tank. That is what I did. No problem.
     
  6. gnichols
    Joined: Mar 6, 2008
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    from Tampa, FL

    I'm surprised you don't have a need for all that extra space under the cowl for other things. A tank in the back is far safer, IMHO. Gary
     
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  7. scrap metal 48
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    You're probably already dead by the time the tank ruptures...
     
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  8. Justin in PA
    Joined: Sep 27, 2017
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    Agreed. Cowl tanks waste a lot of space.
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  9. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
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    image.png Of all the possibilities, being rear ended scares me the most. It is also is what I have the least control of. My stock "A" tank scares me less than my stock Deuce tank on my 32.
     
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  10. Gregg Pellicer
    Joined: Aug 20, 2004
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    I dont think the original tank is inherently dangerous. Ithink for instance its much safer than a 32 tank hanging off the back. Think about it how often have you seen the upper cowl/gastank damaged in a collision ? I'm sure it's happened but I personally have never seen it but I have seen tank's mounted behind rear wheels in the trunk or off the back 32 style split open. A few years back there was a post here on the HAMB with a video of a rear ended 32 engulfed in flames.I just think the odd's of getting rear ended are much greater than getting hit hard enough to damage a cowl mounted tank.
     
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  11. My Model A rod had over a 140k miles when I sold it, plus the miles before it was a rod. When people suggested I put the tank behind rear seat, I always felt with it up front I could see what was going to hit it. Not the case for rear tank. Nothing is perfect.


    Phil
     
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  12. Bam.inc
    Joined: Jun 25, 2012
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    from KS

    If someone in a Model A is hit in a way that ruptures the original tank into a fireball, they'll likely be ejected into opposite ditch & no longer wearing their shoes.
    Just drive defensively, with your head on a swivel, almost like you're on a motorcycle.
    Henry's tank is a good, safe design. It's other people on their cell phones you need to be aware of.
    I've had both cowl & trunk, & if not leaking, installed & vented properly, either way should be the least of your worries.

    . . .
     
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  13. Still stock A placement....think that's a little better than behind the seat and not a whole lot behind the bumper to keep anything from coming on thru.. My 1949 Studebaker truck has the tank between the frame rails in the stock position....the big three finally moved it out from behind the seat in the late 70's.....then there was that blow up GM deal....
     
  14. e z i
    Joined: Sep 5, 2007
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    I'm running with a stock tank. Seems safer than a rear mounted tank to me.
    Pinto anyone?
     
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  15. leon bee
    Joined: Mar 15, 2017
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    I frequently ride machines with the tank right between my legs.
     
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  16. stubbsrodandcustom
    Joined: Dec 28, 2010
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    from Spring tx

    Running stock tank on my latest. Honestly wont move it, tons safer than one mounted behind the rear end due to a lack of frame rails going all the way to rear of body. Plus it would take an airborne car to really screw the stock tank up. Most normally side impact collisions would be about dead on the frame rail with newer cars and suvs... you may split a seam at worst, but I cant see it blowing a fireball. Hell most accident photos of the 30s the cowl was mostly intact and fuel tanks maybe twisted but never split. Everyone gets scared with fuel on top their legs, but when you think about things its not that bad for placement where there isnt much room for other options that are safer.
     
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  17. Hugh Jones
    Joined: Sep 20, 2015
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    I’ve had my 30 roadster going on 6 years now and it has the original tank still in it with the original fuel gauge.. knock on wood.. it still works perfect so leave well enough alone .. I guess !


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  18. I have a two door sedan and was worried about thank placement also so I mounted a tank behind the rear seat (with a metal divider between it and the seat). But to tell you the truth, I would have been better just using the stock tank, more chance of getting hit from the rear than the side. It is nice to get a glove box with the '39 Ford dash I installed but I sure would not want to get rear-ended!
    If your A is a coupe or roadster, you have a better place to mount a rear tank.
     
  19. Original tank in my '29 Tudor.
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  20. run the stock tank. if you can run the 31 steering column mount as it mounts to the body not the tank. Many A's develop stress cracks in the column mount area over the years due to the steering column pushing on the tank.
     
  21. i am running a stock tank in my coupe, stock fuel pump on a flathead... fuel shut off under the dash (passenger side).
    worst thing i have to deal with is closing the windshield to put gas in it...…
    Chappy
     
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  22. woodiewagon46
    Joined: Mar 14, 2013
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    I have owned several Model A's since 1970 and the only accident I have ever read about was about someone having the windshield cracked open when a gas station attendant was filling the tank and the driver lit a match to light a cigar and the gas fumes ignited. Fact or not, I don't know. My Deuce roadster has a 16 gallon bomb between the rear frame rails and I hate to think what would happen if I'm rear ended. I wouldn't worry about it. One thought though, your tank is 80 years old so I would run a couple of filters. I am in the process of restoring a '29 and the tank was so bad that I had to cut two access hatches in the bottom and took out a gallon can of crap.
     
  23. Hamtown Al
    Joined: Jan 17, 2007
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    I used stock tank on both my 28 and 29 Tudors that I built.
    Never any issues. Drove the chopped 29 with V6 Buick for many years (12plus I think).


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  24. Model A Gomez
    Joined: Aug 26, 2006
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    My avatar was flathead powered and ran the stock tank, I also have a stock 29 coupe and a banger powered 30 pickup with the stock tanks. The pickup has been a daily driver for 18 years,
     
  25. nailheadroadster
    Joined: Jun 7, 2006
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    Out of respect, I will not post the picture... but a Google search of "Houston couple perish antique car" will show the horrors.

    A few years ago the Houston Model A Ford Restorers Club lost two great, long time members in a horrible accident. A Dodge Charger broadsided them at an estimated 70 mph during the Thanksgiving club outing. Fire did not occur.
     
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  26. 51 mercules
    Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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    I'm running the stock tank!
     
  27. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    Stock tank here. Also still using the original gas shut off inside the cab. May change that this winter to eliminate any gas leaks in the cab.
     
  28. cederholm
    Joined: May 6, 2006
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    I plan to keep mine when the 8BA goes in.

    ....and great looking Tudor.
     
  29. Thank you...
     
  30. flamedabone
    Joined: Aug 3, 2001
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    My 72 year old co-worker daily drives this little Model A.

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    I asked him if he thought the tank was dangerous, he looked me and said; "What are you? A fucking moron?" I guess that answers that question.

    Car has a nasty dual quad Cad in it, by the way.

    -Abone.
     

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