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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by David Knapp, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. David Knapp
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    So you want to build a hotrod {model a} with your own hands and your own ideas ,you find a 1928 frame with title and at another swap meet you score a 1931 body that is in great shape ,what would you do build it or find a 31 frame to match the body ?
     
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  2. The frames are basically identical and you have a title, there are a lot of Model A's with the incorrect year but id it bothers you sell obe or the other. HRP
     
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  3. Mr48chev
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    Well I'd prefer that the year model of the body and title match. The body and frame don't care but that DPS officer who pulls you over for a mild infraction might not be too nice if you have the 31 body registered as a 28 and he/she knows the difference.
    Hell, go ask the Texas DMV in one of the state DMV offices and see what they say, there may be a simple solution. I'd give the impression that I had a complete 28 rolling chassis though.

    There is a guy around here with a 30/31 cowl and doors with closed car windshield posts on a T bucket frame who always registers the car as a 23 T bucket and will argue it is a 23. I think his concept is that all cars that are built in that style are 23 T no matter what the body started out as though.
     
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  4. The Texas police mast be a lot more informed about Model A's if the know the difference in the body styles. HRP
     

  5. Atwater Mike
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    Right on, Danny...Here in the 'hot rod state' of California, if a police officer knows it's a Ford it's a wonder. Progressivism has spread so far, all anyone knows is that:

    All cars are now front wheel drive.
    Some Hybrids are preferable.
    Electric cars blow up at a moment's notice.
    New cars are 'safe', but an oil change can 'scan' into thousands of $$$!
    Old cars pollute the planet and children.
    Old cars and trucks are dangerous, especially 'loud ones'...
    A policeman stopped me in my '55 F100, asked what it was...I said "Primered."
     
  6. On Texas police....Not many know any difference.
     
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  7. Funny story, but if I was the cop and got a smart arse answer like that, I'd be looking to book you for a list of things as long a as I could invent.;)
     
  8. 41rodderz
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    Troubles come and troubles go.:) Yes it would be a perfect world if body and chassis matched all pretty like, but think how many 40's, 50's Chevy trucks are on S 10 chassis or bodies on new fabbed chassis out there.
     
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  9. Atwater Mike
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    If you were a witch...Would you be a good witch...or a bad witch? :p
     
  10. BuckeyeBuicks
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    Samantha was the good witch, her bad witch look-a -like showed more skin. I just watched that show when I was a kid to see the Chevy commercials :po_O
     
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  11. Corn Fed
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    I like the year of my title to match the body. Model A frames are cheap and easy to find. Get a 30 or 31 with readable numbers. Then bond it thru the state to get a title if it doesnt already come with one.
    BTW, there is a difference between 28/9 and 30/1 front crossmembers. The pad area where the radiator mounts is lower on a 30/1. So if you use a 28/9 frame your radiator will sit higher than it should.
     
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  12. 1946caddy
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    Reallly, I was under the impression that the frames were the same from 28-31 and the reason that the 28-29 radiator shell sits up higher if used on a 30-31 body is because it is approximately 2 1/2 " taller than than 30-31 shell.
     
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  13. David Knapp
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    Of course I could always get a title for a 31 and then the paper work would match the body no one would ever know the frame was a 28 , thanks for all the input.
     
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  14. studebakerjoe
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    You might find someone in a similar situation who wants his frame title and body to match.
     
  15. Bandit Billy
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    The trouble witch was a brunette, and pure trouble. The OP's querry is a lot like Sammy and Serena, a 28 frame and 31 body, basically the same animal. In this state, it wouldn't be an issue. Make sure it isn't in yours and build it.
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  16. Corn Fed
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    Yes, the 30/1 radiator/shell is in itself taller than a 28/9. But there is also a difference in the crossmember mounting area.
     
  17. Flathead Dave
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    "South Park" did an episode on this. I believe it's called "Smug Alert". A play on smog and their shit don't stink. Funny, none the less.
     
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  18. 48fordnut
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    I have the reverse ,a 31 frame and a 28 body. There is a difference in the ft body to frame mounts. Didn't know about the ft cross member.
     
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  19. Bandit Billy
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    The PRIUS episode...a true cinema classic.
     
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  20. DDDenny
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    And all old hot rods are "roadsters".
     
  21. Slopok
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    Aren't a lot of Model A's on '32 rails that are titled as the year of the body???
    I'm sure none are titled as '32's.
     
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  22. David Knapp
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    Slopok that is so true , I guess it all depends on the person buying ,selling or building . All facts are you have a cool ride .
     
  23. sloppy jalopies
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    keep your eyes peeled at swapmeets for rusty [cheap] A cowls, murry and briggs had their own "body number" tag riveted to the firewall with only 2 rivets... no one else will have that #...
     
  24. treb11
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    Texas has a variation of titling "assembled to resemble" or some such verbiage. which works if your PU cab is actually a 46 1-1/2 ton, but you are building a '40 1/2 ton.
     
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