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Technical 1953 Studebaker wheel difference between Champion and Commander ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Marty Strode, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. Marty Strode
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    Are they both 5 lug ?
     
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  2. satan'schariot
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    As far as I know they should be the same the 51 champ and commander are both 5 lug but the 50 champion is 4 lug but that was the last year of the 4 lug as far as I know
     
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  3. Marty Strode
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    That's what I thought. Thank you.
     
  4. Mike VV
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    ALL...53 and newer Studebakers (cars) are 5 lug.
    4-1/2" x 5 pattern.
    The model and or engine/transmission combination do not make a difference.
    Many do...have different brake drum "diameters", that's just additional information since you didn't ask that question.

    Mike
     
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  5. Hnstray
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    • There are some models of the post war Big Studebaker (Land Cruiser...’48 to ‘50 ....and maybe Commander) that had 5 lug 5” bolt circle. Not common now, but does exist. Otherwise I agree with what has been posted.
    Ray
     
  6. Marty Strode
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    Mike and Ray, thanks for the replies. I have a friend who is in the process of a long distance purchase of a 53 coupe and didn't know the exact model, it will require tires and wheels for transport.
     
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  7. Lucky guy.My favorite Stude.
     
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  8. Are they left and right handed lug nuts or are they lug bolts ? Something to think about, I honestly don't remember what it was when we dismantled a 57 last year.
     
  9. Hnstray
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    They have lug nuts.......I believe they are all right hand thread...I can confirm that and thread size tomorrow...I have a couple of '54s at the shop.
     
  10. srude wheels will clear disc brake hubs
    Shhhhhhhhhhh
     
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  11. vtx1800
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    There are both left hand and right hand threads on those Stude studs. The Champions (I have a 53 Champ coupe) were the weak sister with a Dana 27 rear axle instead of the stouter Dana 44 unit, the trans is less robust and the brakes are smaller than the Commanders. I resolved that issue by buying a 58 and 59 Hawk, both v8 cars to get a heavier frame/brakes/differential etc. Unless the car has been stored in a desert hideaway you will get to be a close friend of Studebaker International and Classic Enterprises. Join the Studebaker Drivers Club also, sort of like a smaller Jalopy Journal for Studebaker nuts.
     
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  12. There's a studebaker only swap meet coming up in Dunkirk NY
     
  13. aircap
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    Marty - you could ask over on the forums of the Studebaker Drivers Club or Racing Studebakers....
     
  14. Marty Strode
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    Thanks, I think the consensus is that all Studes after 1950, were 5 lug.
     
  15. hotrod428
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    They won't clear the calipers though.
     
  16. Dang it
    Haven’t tried them with the calipers yet.
     
  17. aircap
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    Also, it might not matter - but modern Mopar and Ford wheels will fit on many Studebakers....
     
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