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Technical Did all '32's have HEAVY front axles?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by The37Kid, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. clem
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    FE6CAA73-BBC2-40AB-824A-AAB5E157BD0B.jpeg

    Same as 3rd pic down in post 24
     

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  2. Wheeliedave
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    Are you saying that all 1932 Ford cars and trucks had what is known as the "heavy" axle ?
    I do know that my "32" passenger car was an unmodified original that had/has the "Heavy" axle which has the 2 and 3/4 inch axle bosses where the wishbone assembly attaches.
    I also know that 1933-34 Ford cars and pickups had a front axle that looked more like a model A axle but had wishbone bosses that measured 2 inches. The Model A wishbone bosses were, I believe, 2 and 1/4 inches.
    From what I have read, the 1933 axles were used through 1936 in passenger cars and light trucks.
    I also have a friend that owns a 1.5 ton truck that is all original and I believe it has axle bosses that are 2 inches.
    You do know that Henry made many changes, right?


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  3. Wheeliedave
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    I screwed up! I meant 2 and 1/4 inch axle bosses, not 2 and 3/4 inches where the wishbone attaches.


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  4. BJR
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    This body has no cowl vent and has side vents. What's up with that? Europe only? 32 Ford French chassis 1.jpg
     
  5. clem
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    ^^^^ Modified by a hot rodder .........?
     
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  6. Rusty O'Toole
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    Pretty well all American auto companies had Canadian plants. It allowed them to dodge import duties. So they made cars for Canadian and British Commonwealth countries here.

    But, they only made about 1/10 the number of cars they made in the US. So they would share parts to cut costs. Most likely they had a foundry and machine shop set up to make the 32 "heavy" axle and just kept using the old tooling as long as possible. It would have cost too much to make new dies, for the small number of axles they were making, the savings in metal would not have been worth it.

    There are a lot of little differences on Canadian made cars of all makes and often they are for reasons of cost and production convenience, and to avoid spending money on tooling new parts.
     
  7. Ric Dean
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    Hey clem
    Where do you find the number is it stamped or embossed?
    thanks
     
  8. clem
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    Embossed, between perch bolt hole and king pin hole, both sides, but on opposite ends, same number and place as heavy axles, but have seen some without the number, yet identical in every other way, - suggesting the replacement axles ?
     
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  9. clem
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    I suspect that in certain parts of USA, mostly or only heavy axles were used, but else where, possibly mostly overseas, there were lighter ones used also.
     
  10. RoddyB34
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    image.jpeg According to Gary Page (Aussie axle dropper) the bottom axle is known in Australia as a Canadian 32 axle,,he's only seen a few in his years of repairing and dropping many axles ,,it's noticeably slightly wider in the beam web ,you can see the slightly different shape in the pic between the perch bosses ,,as our Ford products came through Canada anything is possible here,,
     
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  11. clem
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    On mine,
    15mm narrower on the light one , measuring between perch holes, - I couldn’t figure out why my spring seemed too long !
     
  12. edwardlloyd
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    That's a very early chassis. First few hundred.

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  13. edwardlloyd
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    Here's a British made '32 Ford made in 1933 or 34. It has the skirted front fenders which identify it as 33 onwards.
    This has the 1933 axle. Again it has it now. Maybe it was changed. 20170303_121010.jpeg 20170303_120955.jpeg

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  14. Here is one sample of an axle with a forged part number.
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  15. Wheeliedave
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    No. My '32 had not been touched since it was built and it has the "Heavy" axle. It also has the 4 cylinder engine, all stock.


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  16. clem
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    I have never seen one like that before.
    Certainly different, and looks to have the embossed part number in a different place again.
     
  17. clem
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    172989F1-CFE5-47AA-8BC7-261F608792D4.jpeg BFF1EBFC-09E8-4125-8D52-3FBC9365C875.jpeg
     
  18. clem
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    As requested, please see in post 47 above.
     
  19. sloppy jalopies
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    Memory says '28-'29-'30-'31, '33-'34 were the same and used the kingpin spacer... '32 was thicker and didn't use it...
     
  20. sloppy jalopies
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    self explanatory int it ?
     
  21. Fordors
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    No. Tell us more.
     
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  22. sloppy jalopies
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    when I last ran a straight ex the "king pin and bushing" sets had a washer like spacer that all but the '32 used...
     
  23. alchemy
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    Sloppy, all the king pin sets come with the thin shims to take up the slop between the axle and spindle. Every year set could have slop, so the shims might be needed. Doesn't matter which year.
     
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  24. clem
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    I thought that there may have been some comments on the ‘32 “light” axle with the ‘32 part number shown, that I posted, in post 47.
    After 30 plus years of being told that there is no such thing, and many interesting discussions, I thought there would be some discussion on my post.
    But alas.........



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  25. @clem The B 3010 part number was used for all variations of '32-'36 axles, as far as I have seen.
     
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  26. clem
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    Thanks for your comments.
    I’ve seen the above axles both with, and without the part numbers.
    Seems like we will never know for sure.
     
  27. Okay. In the Ford Motor Company Parts Price List effective December 20, 1932, the front axle part number listed is B-3010 for both Model 18 and B.
    $5.50
     
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  28. Deuce Lover
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    Apparently what out from a very knowledgeable '32 person it is a service replacement part mainly used for overseas markets in early '33.Not all axles had the embossed part number.Of all the 32's in the museum auction in Amsterdam 1 had the 33 style axle.
     
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