I bought these from a fellow HAMBer about 8 yrs ago & never used them. The holes that bolt to a/the frame are 18-1/2" center-to-center when bolted to a Small Block. Nothing damaged or bent--been sitting in a cabinet. No bolts or fasteners. Speedway sells these for $60.00 + $40.00 + shipping from SoCal Thanks H.A.M.B. !