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Hot Rods 354 hemi 4spd ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dartracer, Mar 24, 2018.

  1. dartracer
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    Had a growling noise in my clutch. Pulled motor and trans, found some issues. I have never seen a pilot bushing like this. Has anyone seen one like this? Fairly large and held in with a lock ring. This is a 354 hemi with a mopar 833 4spd.
     

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  2. What held that pilot bushing in? I know the hole in the crankshaft isn't even close to that to that big.
     
  3. dartracer
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    Crank has groove with a lock ring. I have never seen anything like this. The ID on the pilot has a little play on the input shaft, not a lot but some.
     
  4. kursplat
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  5. Must be more than one way to do it. My adapter uses a Spacer between the Crank and flywheel. The spacer has a shoulder at the rear and the Factory bushing presses in and against the shoulder keeping the bushing from passing all the way through. With my adapter being 7/8" thick the input shaft don't quite get to the Crankshaft. My crankshaft don't have any snap ring grove at all. Strange stuff there dartracer.
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  6. dartracer
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    I will get some pictures of the groove and snap ring in the morning.
     
  7. Vanness
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    A191351F-AC42-420C-BBCC-6C44FCE63E43.png Kind of looks the the pilot on my 55 chevy ls motor mated to 4 speed super t10. This one is stepped to fit in LS flywheel and then mate to 4-5/6 speed. They make combination pilot bearings. It sort of looks like yours is something along those lines.
     
  8. Vanness
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    I’ll be actually doing the same thing g next year hopefully as I have a s23 hemi from a desoto that I’ll be putting a mopar 4 speed with it. I’ll need to know soon, just not that soon lol.
     
  9. dartracer
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    DA18A92D-157A-47F2-981D-7098BD5EDE04.jpeg 95DDBE84-414F-4F36-A18A-5CF93F5B8061.jpeg Here are some pics of the groove and the lock ring. Could this thing have an industrial crank in it ? This is my first early hemi, had 426’s been in mopars for 40 years and have never seen this.
     
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  10. dartracer
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    I was looking at those, ether to big or to small.
     
  11. 4tford
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    Seen those type bushings before on 1950's type cranks.
     
  12. dartracer
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    How loose is to loose, clearance calls for .754, the old bushing is .810. The noise I was getting was coming from the through out bearing.
     
  13. deucemac
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    You have a truck crankshaft just like I do. When I bought my adapter from Wilcap, Patrick sent me a passenger car pilot bearing. I gave him the truck dimensions and he sent me the right bronze-oilite bushing. If you can't find one locally, call Patrick at Wilcap. he now knows which one you need.
     
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  14. dartracer
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    Thank you very much, I will give him a call.
     

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