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Technical 62 ford 170 6 cylinder rebuild

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mattoo2013, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. mattoo2013
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    Anybody know where I can find a build book for one of these? Or even an entire build book for a 62 Fairlane?

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  2. Beanscoot
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    The 1962 Ford Fairlane and Meteor shop manual produced by Ford.
     
  3. mcnally351
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    Any factory manual 60-69 ford falcon, comet, econoline. Tffn.com is a great source online also. Pretty simply motor to build and it helps you and a friend can pick it up with two straps and carry it in the basement if needed. That's what I did. Good luck
     
  4. dan c
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    back in the day, we'd put a 200 in as a replacement. seven main bearings as opposed to 4!
     
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  5. FrankenRodz
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    It needs a V8!

    Three Quarter Engine.JPG
     
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  6. Mr48chev
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    As they said a factory service manual that the dealer mechanics used is the best info.
    There are several on Ebay but this one has a better price than most.
    152736213087
    Worth the 30 bucks and you will use it a lot.
     
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  7. gimpyshotrods
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    Find a 7-main 200, up to 1966, and put 1980-end head (milled 0.075"), and a Clay Smith cam. It will look almost the same, and it will make more than double the power of the 170.
     
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    A good time to do an upgrade.
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  9. dan c
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    now yer talkin! put a 250 in my '67 e-100 and it ran like a raped ape. a 240/300 was more $ but better! but--how much ya wanna spend!
     
  10. gimpyshotrods
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    If that fits in a '62, that is a possibility, too.

    It would take some measuring. The deck height is taller, and the water pump is quite a bit larger.
     
  11. v8flat44
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    The 200 is a better motor, i've owned both. If you want to build a 6 cyl, google In line Six Performance.
    They do some neat stuff. mike
     
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  12. v8flat44
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    Try clifford performance instead of inline six. My mistake. mike
     
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  14. dirty old man
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    Just a caveat, as I encountered this years ago, the very early 170/200 engines had a 5 bolt pattern and later ones had a 6 bolt IIRC. Requires a different bell housing.
    The later ones also used a far better manual 3 spd trans with synchronized 1st gear also. Now long gone from an accident, but for many years had an early OT '65 Mustang used as a DD and grocery getter for at least 20-25 years. Lots of long distance commuting and lots of miles, involving lots of repairs and scrounged up parts and pieces over the years, all stock except for a few years it had a Clifford header and dual exhaust, glass packs.
    Best driveline combo was a 6 bolt 200 eng, and a matching 3 spd. all from a wrecked '66, bought whole as a donor, and all a bolt in.
     
  15. gimpyshotrods
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    In about 1978, the Falcon originated six got a modified SBF bellhousing pattern.
    Prior to that, it had a bellhousing pattern specific to the 9" clutch bell.
    From the beginning of the 200, to about 1966-68, it had both bellhousing patterns, for both the 8-1/2" clutch bell, and 9" clutch bell.
    The 144, 170 had the 8-1/2 clutch.
    Be aware, there IS an orphan 5-main bearing 200. Don't buy that one.
     
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  16. gimpyshotrods
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    This is a 1966 block. In this picture, you can see that there are two different bolt patterns on the top of the bell area:
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    The lower left dowel, left lower hole, and right lower hole are the same in both patterns.

    You can quickly distinguish which one you have by simply looking at the starter. If it has 3-bolts holding it on the bellhousing, it has an 8-1/2" clutch. If it has just two, it has a 9" clutch.
     
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  18. dirty old man
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    Thx Gimpy, for the details on this, I just remembered the surprise I had when I built that'66 engine and then pulled out the '65 and the '66 wouldn't fit. Been well over 40 years since I worked on that old Mustang.
     
  19. gimpyshotrods
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    Right up there with my surprise that, with some minor cutting on the 8-1/2" flywheel, the tapping of a few holes, which are already there, in the correct-to-tap size, that it can take a Mercedes 190D pressure plate.

    If you separate the bearing portion of the throwout bearing from carrier, the Mercedes throwout bearing fits there, too. The Mercedes clutch disc is 1-1/8" 26-spline, same as GM (Diesel Jeep/Pontiac Sunbird disc gets you 1" 14-spline).

    That is how I manage to have a T56 from a Camaro behind my Falcon-6 (Spec Stage-3 Kevlar clutch), stock pedal, stock pedal feel, stock z-bar, and stock fork.
     

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