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Ford Steel Wheel Tech

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by wheelkid, Jun 16, 2006.

  1. woodz
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    Sorry to bring up an old thread,
    Iam looking for some early Ford 16X4.5 with 5on5.5 BP for my 30 Tudor. I have found a couple that are in good shape but they have the truck style boly holes (bump out towards the outside of the wheel instead of dimpled in like the car ones-hope that makes scense) and they have no stampings of any sort on them. No Ford markings or KH markings or date stamps. Are these an aftermarket wheel or from something else? Any ideas?
    Thanks
    Jordan
     
  2. alchemy
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    Doesn't make much difference how the boly holes look, if it is the correct size and accepts the right cap, it will work. Not many guys care if the boly holes are innies or outties.
     
  3. woodz
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    "Boly holes" HAHAHA!! Sorry, I missed my typo there. I wasnt overly concerned about the bolt hole style, just trying to describe them as best I could to try and see if they are Ford or not. Every ever Ford steel wheel I have seen has a Ford or FoMoCo stamp. I dont have any caps yet to check with. Guess I will have to start by getting caps and see how they fit. Thanks for your help.
    Jordan
     
  4. Major Woody
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    Hello everyone!
    Just returned from the junkyard with three 6J 15 wheels off an '84 Econoline 150. I plan to use these wheels for the outer hoops only. The fourth wheel on the van was MIA, so I'll need to locate another one to match, and because I will be switching inners, the hoop IDs will all need to be identical with an ID of approximately 12.75".

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    Markings on these rims are:
    Ford oval
    15 X 6J
    K1 84
    E 30
    I figure K1 84 is manufacturing info and date.

    What I am wondering is what other Fords would have run this wheel? I'd like to make my search a little easier by narrowing down the list of what vehicles I'm looking for.

    Thanks very much for whatever help you can provide!
     
  5. PetesPonies
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    I have some 9 1/2" dog dish Ford caps. I have wheels that need a larger cap and wheels where these caps are too large. :) So how many different sizes were made in wheels for the dog dish caps?? These are all "outies" that I'm referring.
     
  6. Pete'sPony....hey pics always helps us old fomogoee's....
     
  7. PetesPonies
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    Sure, but aren't my measurements clear enough?? I have no pics of these things at the time.
     
  8. partzpal
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    I've got the 15'' Ford steel wheels and would like help decoding the wheels if anyone can help. The wheels are 15x5.5'' as listed with the Fomco stamp and an M stamped near along with F & 2 near the valve stem and 3 D 19. There's also a spot of yellow & green paint on the backside as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     

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  9. chinarus
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    from Georgia

  10. Don's Hot Rods
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    from florida

    On the front of my 27 and on the front of my 23 I used 46-48 Merc 15 inch wheels. They are only 5 inches wide and have the nubs for the hubcaps on the inside, so 40-48 hubcaps fit. I understand 49-50 Merc wheels are similar, but have the nubs on the outside, so the caps snap over those, ala 50 Merc type hubcaps.

    I just found two wheels at Turkey Run that I had powder coated and am going to run on my rpu. They are 56 Ford Pickup wheels, 15 x 5 wide with the 5.5 bolt pattern. They are a better width for the 5:60 front tires I am running. I originally had some repop wheels but they are 5 1/2 wide and ballooned the tires out too much to look right.

    This is a good thread, very informative.


    Don
     
  11. Great Thread thanks for all the info.
     
  12. 117harv
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  13. J7771
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    I have a question. I seen where it was posted that ford never made an 8 inch wide steel wheel? I have 3 I had them sand blasted and repainted but having trouble finding a 4th. After being blasted you could see them stamped ford 8 inch I have no idea what they came off of my dad had them they are going on my 71 shortwide if I can find a 4th any help is appreciated
     
  14. Gary Addcox
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    Ford offered 15" and 16" steelies on their half-ton trucks from '49-'64. They were 5 on 5 1/2 with the little knobs on the inside of the centers. They accepted '40-'48 Ford factory hubcaps, one reason streetrodders use them. Widths were 5, 5 1/2, and 6, depending on year.
     
  15. Gary Addcox
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    I believe '64 was the last year for the "early" steelie on Ford trucks that is so popular. Anybody disagree ? Agree ?
     
  16. Gary Addcox
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    On that idea, you can build a 15x4 on 5 1/2 with Ford centers and early '60s Rambler American outers. I had the only set in the early '70s on the front of my '34 sedan with 185x80x15 tires. Decades later, Wheel Vintiques offered them for $170 a pop. Today they should cost one around $60 a piece to build, including welding. A pro should do the welding !
     
  17. Gary Addcox
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    The 15" early Ford "steelie" wheel we all love and use has a 12 5/8 O.D. center, and the only hoop with a 12 5/8 I.D. that I am aware of is the early '60s Rambler American which is 4" wide. Makes a really neat front wheel.
     
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  18. Ive got asset of 14 inch wheels that my dad had . ford Pk bolt pattern. he claimed they came off a mercury. I always assumed they where implement wheels. There is lots farm equiptment around that have ford truck lug pattern and the wheels appear to be WWII military surplus.
     
  19. Tim Tobin
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    would anyone know what the center hub hole diameter might be for a 53 mercury Monterey any help would be great
     
  20. rdlillemoen
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  22. Jake_shake
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    I know this is a old thread but can anyone help ID these, no “bumps” for center caps so I’m thinking they are quite a bit newer than what most of this post is directed at but they are 5x4.5 bolt circle and clearly ford, haven’t measured width but have a L78-15’s mounted on them. I only got 2 so I would like to know what to look for to find another 2 to match mabey narrower and google hasn’t turned up much [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]


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  23. Hnstray
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    I think they are from later models.....i. e. From the very late ‘80s / early ‘90s full size Fords....small caps weren’t used on those as best I recall.
     
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  24. big duece
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    Some research may unveil the codes around the valve stem. I know when collecting Gm ralley wheels, Kelsey Hayes has their system of date and application code stamped by the valve stem and near the lug nuts.
     
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  25. tim troutman
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    have an 87 crown vic wagon parts car that had aluminum wheels had a wheel like that for the spare
     
  26. davidvillajr
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    Help me out, please, because lately things aren't quite hitting the way I want them to.

    I bought these really nice Lincoln hubcaps, but they don't want to fit my current wheels. They don't want to "bite" on the rim, but I don't think they're hitting the center of the wheel - they did on the Merc wheels in the stash.

    I don't know what my wheels are, they are NOT the stock '51 Ford wheels.

    Grandpa replaced them with something...

    No pics of the current wheels because I'm at work and I forgot to take one.

    Question is:

    Do these wheelcovers require a specific wheel?

    I've not had this issue with any other hubcaps except for some '56 Cadillac ones.

    Thanks IMG_20190126_181829_070.jpeg

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  27. ne'erdowell
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    Without a photo, I’ll go for the obvious. Are the wheels 16”, because those wheel covers are for 15s. No offense intended


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  28. davidvillajr
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    Yeah, everything's 15" - I probably shoulda put that in there. :confused: hahaha!
     
  29. Hnstray
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    A photo of the wheel(s) in question would help immensely.....

    we'll wait.........;)
     
  30. davidvillajr
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    The wheel in question.

    There's no numbers or anything that I can find on the outside. Boring 15" steel wheel. 20190130_160756.jpeg

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