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Hot Rods Spalding Bros Repro, for "Too Tall" Ganahl.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Marty Strode, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. tfeverfred
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  2. DDDenny
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    I'd say if Pat wanted perfection he got it.
    I think you nailed it Marty!
     
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  3. Outstanding!
     
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  4. Love that exhaust! Beautiful and quality work.
     
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  5. woodbutcher
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    :D That exhaust is just perfect.
    Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
    Leo
     
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  6. Runnin shine
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    That exhaust would have surface rust all over it before I could stop staring and drag myself to the next step.


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  7. Any close ups of that and the instructions?
     
  8. pgan
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    Robert, You can enlarge the photos on your screen. But what you see is it. This was an esoteric dry sump system made using a stock pickup and a GMC pump mounted and driven off the front of the cam. There were no "instructions" for it or the modified pan. And I've never seen these in the Wayne catalogs. Not sure how you could make a dry sump with just one pump. Usually you need a scavenge pump from the pan to an oil tank, and then a pressure pump(s) to feed oil from the tank to the engine. That's about all I know. P.G.
     
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  9. jimmy six
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    Pat, when I ran a Pontiac overhead cam engine in my roadster which Vic Enyart had gotten from Eddie Meyers boat racing days had a dry sump system using 2 stock oil pumps end to end, belt driver, pretty ingenious. Vic replaced with a Weaver or Barnes but I'm sure it worked well.
    There are many cast iron stand alone oil pumps we used in power plants that I considered running as external oil pumps on my GMC's but didn't because they did not have bypass's. You easily do one for less than $50, a far cry from a single stage from one of the many manufacturers. J.D.​
     
  10. Thanks, when I enlarge it the pan part get cut off.:rolleyes:
     
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  11. loudbang
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    check your conversations.
     
  12. Marty Strode
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    Got the rear exhaust hanger mounted today, I wanted it mounted to the frame for solid support. Using some 5/8" 4130 tube, with a threaded insert in one end, connected to the body mount as well. It should do the job. Side nerfs are next. IMG_0970.JPG IMG_0971.JPG IMG_0972.JPG IMG_0975.JPG IMG_0976.JPG IMG_0978.JPG IMG_0979.JPG
     
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  13. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Very nice.
    I've seen some pipes held down by a "screen door spring" to allow a little give from engine and chassis twist, much like your floating bushings do.
     
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  14. I'm impressed that the little hand bender will bend 5/8" Chromoly.
     
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  15. Uncle Ronn
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    Shure as hell hope I get to HEAR this thing one day, that pipe with that engine,...
     
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  16. Marty Strode
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    Dean, I hadn't tried it on Chromoly before, but it turned out a nice, uniform bend.
     
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  17. Marty Strode
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    I got started on the side nerf bars today. I love the way the passenger side parallels the exhaust pipe. As in some of my other posts, I made a shoe liner for my 1" X 4" radius die, to bend 7/8" tube. I followed with laying out a radius guage from cardboard, to make a pattern of the shape that was required to locate bend starts on the tube. The first tube has 2 bends, one is over 90 degrees and the other is under 90, with the legs parallel. IMG_1004.JPG As always, I get nervous when drilling, or cutting holes in Pat's precious sheet metal, with the chance of making a mistake on the hole centers. So far, so good, I will tackle the lower portion tomorrow! IMG_0986.JPG IMG_0988.JPG IMG_0991.JPG IMG_0992.JPG IMG_0994.JPG IMG_0995.JPG IMG_0998.JPG IMG_0999.JPG IMG_1002.JPG Spalding head-on( best).jpg Spalding 3.jpg
     
  18. alchemy
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    I wonder why the windshield is off center on the original car?
     
  19. Marty Strode
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    Because the mud off of the guy's tires you are following, will spray you in the corners.
     
  20. alchemy
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    But with all the perfect detail on all the rest of the car, couldn't they have just widened it a bit more on the short side so it matched?
     
  21. Marty Strode
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    They ran it on some 1 mile ovals, such as Phoenix, maybe they didn't want the extra drag.
     
  22. Tim
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    Perfect functional detail ;) it’s still a race car afterall
     
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  23. Marty Strode
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    Now, with the lower tube in place. Next the mountings, and the curlicue tube to connect the lower rear mount, IMG_1008.JPG IMG_1009.JPG IMG_1010.JPG IMG_1011.JPG IMG_1012.JPG
     
  24. loudbang
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    You are a metal massaging master. :)
     
  25. This is amazing!
     
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  26. grumpy65
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    Hi Marty,
    Outstanding. The engineering, quality of workmanship and attention to detail on your build is second to none.
    The torsion bar front end has me hooked. I might be doing something similar after being inspired by what you have done. Could you post some pics of the method you used to connect the torsion arms to the axle please. Did you have to allow some sort of slip joint to ensure there is no binding during suspension travel? I am not saying there will be binding in your design. Just wondering if it is a concern or not.
    Thanks for inspiring me and no doubt many others.
    Steve.
     
  27. Speedwrench
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    Also off your own right front once you get it cranked around in a corner.
     
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  28. Brett Wells
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    Hi there Marty, as you know the Spalding Brothers were AMAZING!
    Have a couple of Spalding Flame Throwers, awesome stuff!
    I have been looking at the photo's of the Spalding track roadster that you and Pat Ganahl are replicating in the book Merchants of Speed, and have always had a soft spot for Wayne headed chevy's or GMC 6's.
    Can you please say hello to Pat for me, as I have always loved his articles over the years, a talented journalist, and has helped thousands of rodders with there projects!
    I'm in to early Hemi's, and have a few rare bits that are not forsale, but have never seen a Wayne head in the flesh, but they are were way a head of their time, as were many parts built in the 50's like Howards 430 Linc with Hemi rail with special hemi heads!
    I respect the early rodding pioneers and the pioneering parts manufactures with great admiration and their amazing talents, that produced awesome speed parts we all know seek for our traditional hot rods!
    Life building rods know would be very boring without there great efforts and parts, and great articles in mags with info which is THE MOST!
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all Rodders! Brett
     
  29. Marty Strode
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    Hi Steve, Welcome to the HAMB. If you look in the earlier posts, you will see your concern addressed. On both the front and rear arms on the right side, they are slotted to allow the suspension movement, just like the original car.
     
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  30. Brett Wells
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    Hi there Pat, I have been in awe of your Hot rod "how too" articles for decades!
    Also in awe of your Spalding replica, absolutely AMAZING STUFF!
    I think Dave Zeuscel did a lot of Chevy and GMC 6 hop up work?, so have a few books with photos of these engines he was working on, so will look them up for you if you want?
    Always a big fan of Wayne Chevy stuff and 50's Chevy fleetlines and Willy's coupes, trucks and early hemi speed gear!
    I think I have seen a photo of Gotha rocker arms for Chevy's or maybe McGurk?
    I like the 31 Chev coupe and roadster of Steve Centracchio with GMC in the roadster, and 261 Chev in the coupe, WOW , THE MOST! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Brett
     

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