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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HJLrulz, May 23, 2017.

  1. HJLrulz
    Joined: Jan 16, 2016
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    HJLrulz

    I know making something from solid stock is probably the strongest way, but, lets say i dont have the right thickness metal for the project at hand. How strong or weak would the metal be if i made something from a stack of similar metal, bolted or rivited together to the needed thickness?... the project im thinking of is not extremely high strength, or dangerous if it was to break, but does need to be strong enough to get the job done. ... any thoughts?

    Ps... im thinking about stacking sheet metal to get to 1/2" thickness, maybe 2" wide and about 15" to 20" long

    Herschel
     
  2. Probably depends on the end use,maybe 2 pieces of 1/4 inch.
     
  3. 19Fordy
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    Stacking or layering sheet metal is a "weak" solution, especially
    if you have any torque or bending forces applied.
    What tool is it that you're trying to make?
     
  4. oj
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    The 'stacking' of 2 thickness' isn't the weak part, it is the bolts/rivets/weld etc joining them.
     
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  5. Mike51Merc
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    I'm no guru, but your intended application needs to be known to fully answer your question.
     
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  6. squirrel
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    It's all in the design...you gave us no clues as to what it has to do, so we can't answer your question.

    C'mon, spill it, we can help you figure out how to do what you need to do.
     
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  7. BJR
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    Are you thinking plywood, only metal?
     
  8. Mike51Merc
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  9. If they are heated and forge welded together. Them dudes mix the molecules up man
     
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  10. Strong enough to get the job done?

    I'm sure it will do serious damage to a entire swarm of flies before it fails.

    You probably could put a few good dents in a door skin with it.

    It will leave a mark on someone

    It might hold water

    Great door prop giving many years of service.

    2 pieces of 1/4" x2"
    Available at the local home center.
     
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  11. gimpyshotrods
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    What eeeeessss eeeetttt maaannn!?
     
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  12. This is like asking if .................................,well,can I?
     
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  13. Wallaby
    Joined: Jan 21, 2007
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    Surface tension makes it strong. Laminated sheets are stronger than a singe thick piece.
    The same applies to plywood; the thinner the sheets, the less resistant to bending it is.
     
  14. ya making your own leaf spring?
     
  15. gimpyshotrods
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    Every metro area has a fabrication shop. Often there is more than one.

    Every fabrication shop invariably ends up with leftovers from jobs called drop.

    Some of my finest work has been done with drop. Get some.
     
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  16. HJLrulz
    Joined: Jan 16, 2016
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    HJLrulz

    Yeah, I was vague on the end use on purpose. I wanted the info given kinda general or generic because I have different uses in mind, different projects. The 1/2"×2"×15" dimensions is something I want to make that will be used as a lever, think "come along" or "winch" but without the ratcheting and cable.
    I've been reading the Homemade Tools thread and thought about making somethings using whatever i can easily obtain (free) and posting there. Also thinking maybe someone here that has more knowledge on riveting might donate some of that info for me to absorb .
    Right now I'm making a small power hacksaw from mostly scrap, I came across some black pipe, so im considering making a bandsaw and maybe some form of rotisserie, ( thats why I made the hacksaw 1st). I might post those there also as i finish them.
    Herschel

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  17. HJLrulz
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    HJLrulz

    This is kinda what I'm hoping to hear...lol

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  18. HJLrulz
    Joined: Jan 16, 2016
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    HJLrulz

    I never thought of that!!!!!...... Now I wonder if i collected up enough knives, could i forge them together to make said leafspring?... now wouldn't that be a turn around...lol

    Herschel

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  19. If your tool projects are successful, please post them here

    If your tool projects are successful, please post them here. I'm sure we'd all like to see them
     
  20. HJLrulz
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    HJLrulz

    Oh yeah!,... the shop I work in "donates" scrap steel to quite a few of my wizbang wonders... i mean serious projects.

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  21. saltflats
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    How much force on the lever?
     
  22. HJLrulz
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    HJLrulz

    Lol,.... it's just an idea that I am looking into, nothing incredibly serious

    Herschel

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  23. HJLrulz
    Joined: Jan 16, 2016
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    HJLrulz

    Yup,.. bingo

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  24. mountainman2
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    ???
     
  25. HJLrulz
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    HJLrulz

    Just arm strength

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  26. HJLrulz
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    HJLrulz

    I was thinking the same thing

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  27. saltflats
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    from Missouri

    Guess it depends on how big your arm is.
    May work..........maybe stack them up and then wrap it and bolt or rivet together.
     
  28. HJLrulz
    Joined: Jan 16, 2016
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    HJLrulz

    Im out in the garage and I'm looking at the sheetmetal, its anout .035" thick x 16" tall by more then i need long. Instead of cutting into strips first, what if i was able to fold it? If I can fold it into 16 layers i should get .500" thickness... or close to that... then i will still have to fasten it together to hold its shape and around areas of the pivot points and things. Thoughts anyone?

    Herschel

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  29. HJLrulz
    Joined: Jan 16, 2016
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    HJLrulz

    ...ps also making a bending brake and possibly some kinda sheet metal roller

    Sent from my cell phone when I shoulda been working, using the H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  30. Mike51Merc
    Joined: Dec 5, 2008
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    I have a project that requires a rope. If my rope isn't long enough, can I tie two pieces of rope together? Will it be strong enough?
     
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