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Hot Rods Flat head to c4 torque convertor question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rusty rocket, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. rusty rocket
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    Years ago when I built my 26 T modified I had just been involved in an accident and broke both my ankles so I wound up putting a C4 behind the flathead. The motor is a fairly stock 52 ford 8ba with an Isky max1 cam. I bought the c4 trans adapter from speedway and the kit came with a stock convertor. I have never been happy with it. It just doesnt have any low end power, shit I cant even get the tires to break loose unless theres a bit of dust of gravel under them. Im not sure what the stall of a stock c4 convertor is but need some suggestions on what would work as far as a higher stall. I have the radiator out now to fix a leak so now would be the time to yank the motor and put a new convertor in. IMG_0126.JPG
     
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  3. rusty rocket
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    Which convertor from B&M?
     
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    Anybody out there with any info.
     

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    Still looking for some motor/trans guru to chime in.
     
  6. Raunchy
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    I saw where one of the kits made has a 2300 rpm stall convertor. Can't remember which one it is but I wouldn't want to go any higher as the flathead is not a high rpm motor. I think 2000 to 2300 would do nice without giving up too much slippage at cruise speed. That is what I plan to run with 3.55 gears ,possibly 3.73.
     
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  7. Raunchy
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    Are you geared high? As that will make one lazy too. Neat little bucket by the way.
     
  8. rusty rocket
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    4.11 in a quick change.
     
  9. 3340
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    I have a stock convertor c4 (1800 stall )trans hook to flathead in my roadster 279 gear, 29 in tires, plenty of low end


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  10. Have C4 behind flattie in my avatar 39............used Flat-O-Matic adaptor kit with a 2000 stall convertor and 3:55's in 8" rearend..........works great and with taller tire on back turns 2400 rpm at 60 mph.........good allround situation with good bottom end and no slippage on hwy............
     
  11. Raunchy
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    You should have good torque with those gears. Could you maybe need more timing?
     
  12. rusty rocket
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    Ive had this car on the road since 2007, its never had enuff rpm off the line so thats why I was thinking the convertor. I like the gear ratio in the Quick change as far as top end.
     
  13. alchemy
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    Is there another converter that will "drop in"? Ida thought the combination would require a custom converter, so you may have to have another custom converter built. Maybe if you sent your current one to a place like B&M they could make exactly what you need. They could match the spline and outside dimensions, and modify the fins to give the proper RPM.
     
  14. rod1
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    I'd be giving Hughes transmissions a call with every bit of info you have on the package.These guys are amazing to work with.Haven't really heard any thing good on B&M in a long time...
     
  15. rusty rocket
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    The convertor is a stock c4 unit. Maybe Ill give H and H a call, I think they know Flatheads:)
     
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  16. alchemy
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    If it's a stock unit there should be a million different options out there. I would guess you would want to have full engagement by 1500 RPM, wouldn't you? Maybe a call to Flat-O-Matic would help, as they also build transmissions. They could give some recommendations or sell you the right converter.
     

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