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Halibrand quickchange. Need help disassembling

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  1. andyg
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    Eureka!!! Even that far out it's still engaged with the carrier and turns the other side! Spanner nut and lock wash in the hub with a BIG sealed bearing. Looks like a good setup but I wonder if it can handle side forces or if it's made for straight line only...

    Thanks goes to previous owner!

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  2. andyg
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    You are correct sir!


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  3. GearheadsQCE
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    Good call on that, Marty! Now, when you get the axle all the way out, I'll bet it has 12 BIG splines on the end.
     
  4. oldtom69
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    great news,it was done correctly after all!!!!
     
  5. Marty Strode
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    Bruce, I have a 6 spline spool and pair of axles (with about a foot of offset) that came with my old Bart unit. Everyone was trying something different back then.
     
  6. andyg
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    HOLY SNIKIES! Ouch. Engine or tranny may have locked up? Or maybe hit reverse while moving forward? Driven on the street? 1.5 " axles. 10 spline.

    Dang it. So close to being reusable. I guess I see a machinist in my future. What would these 1.5" axles be out of originally?

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  7. oldtom69
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    a lot of torque in those flatheads!!lol
     
  8. andyg
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    That's right!


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  10. Pewsplace
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    I am surprised the pinion housing isn't cracked with all that axle twist. Looks good in the photo. How does the other side look?
     
  11. Marty Strode
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    That's what I was thinking.
     
  12. andyg
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    I had a pair of Henrys axles that were twisted like that many years ago and was concerned, was told they did that and that they wouldn't go any further, but you just never know for sure.
     
  15. GearheadsQCE
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    I'm anxious to see the inside of the carrier.
     
  16. andyg
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    So here's what see as far as the axles go. The flange looks like a custom machined piece with a ring welded to the inside that fits into the hub. All of that is welded to the machined down end of an axle or what may possibly be a 32-34 driveshaft (although there's no coupler pin hole in the 10 spline end of the shaft like I would expect if it were made from a driveshaft. Plus I don't know what diameter the 32-34 driveshafts were or whether they are solid or tube style like 35-36. I think 32-34 were tube driveshafts now that I think about it. Someone set me straight on this.
    So what axle was 1.5" diameter and 10 spline?


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  17. andyg
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    So it looks like a stock Ford carrier with splines cut into it. I'm sure it weakens it but with the bearing race on it, its like a sleeve that's used when strengthening the columbia rearends. There's no spider gears in it. Pretty slick way to spool if you ask me!
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    Here's a stock one. Looks similar to me. This one doesn't have the bearing or race on it. But you can see the "snout" is thick enough to cut the splines into it. [​IMG]


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    Somebody was really thinking when they built that. So many times the spiders were welded up (on the bigger QCs) Nice to see that someone eliminated the extra rotating weight.
    I don't have a clue on the 10 spline axles.
     
  20. 28dreyer
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    [QUOTE)I don't have a clue on the 10 spline axles.[/QUOTE]

    My F. Davis Engineering QC had a 1 1/4" X 10 spline spool that I needed to make floater axles for. That was a very common size for old sprint cars, and today the front end of sprint car drive shafts are still that size carrying all that power.

    If you go to an old salvage yard and ask for that size axle out of something old, and the guy comes up with one he's a genius.

    1 1/2" X 10, if you are sure of the measurement, might have been a truck.

    If by chance it is 1 1/4", just find an old Chrysler product axle from about 1950 and older.

    I think real old Chevrolets had 1 3/8" X 10 spline.
     
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  22. andyg
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    My F. Davis Engineering QC had a 1 1/4" X 10 spline spool that I needed to make floater axles for. That was a very common size for old sprint cars, and today the front end of sprint car drive shafts are still that size carrying all that power.

    If you go to an old salvage yard and ask for that size axle out of something old, and the guy comes up with one he's a genius.

    1 1/2" X 10, if you are sure of the measurement, might have been a truck.

    If by chance it is 1 1/4", just find an old Chrysler product axle from about 1950 and older.

    I think real old Chevrolets had 1 3/8" X 10 spline.[/QUOTE]

    It measures 1.507" with the mic and I figured there's about .007" of rust. Lol. I was told that there were a few dana 60's put under half ton Ford pickups in the late 60's. I would think ALL dana axles by then were more than 10 spline. But my brother says he thinks his 70 Ford 4x4 SWB Crew Cab has 10 spine axles. They are 1.5. But he wasn't sure.

    So maybe a late 60's 3/4-1 ton axle shaft. I think the original flange was cut off anyway. So that may be what they made it out of.


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  23. Marty Strode
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    Andy, what are you going to put it in ?
     
  24. andyg
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    Was told that years ago racers would mark a line down the full length of the axle. 1-1/2 turns was usually failure! Yikes! If that were true mine still looks like a new one!

    I think that is exactly what mine has. Threaded bearing race for nut.

    Who made the hub?


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  25. andyg
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    Nothing. I like to drive lots of miles and can't handle the whine!


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  26. andyg
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    Maybe a Hambster. I been wanting to test some flathead engine ideas. But not sure if that will come together anytime soon.


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  27. Moser can supply new axles with ten spline ends. Think I would discard the current full floating set up and weld on available Ford 9" bearing cups/brake flanges.
     
  28. andyg
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    What's your reasoning for replacing the full floater setup and Lincoln brakes?


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  29. alchemy
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    To save 200 pounds?
     
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