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Banjo rear with late model axles

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jimmy2car, Jul 16, 2009.

  1. butch27
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    Something to really think about. Do you put the new backing plates and weld the flange mountings included in the work?
     
  2. butch27
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    Oh - also I have the old 4:11 gear. Need something in the 3 s. Send a pm or e-mail with ball park costs. Thanks
     
  3. Bump, great thread, any more ideas?

    My Banjo housing ends have minor pitting on one side and slight radial wera on the inner edge of the races on both sides.
     
  4. searching on hot rod works site i see their conversion and i don't understand how is sicured the axle shaft.....i think with a snap ring in the shaft
     
  5. HemiRambler
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    Wow, I like it - maybe now I'll end up using that old banjo I have packed away in the garage...
     
  6. really a cool way to save the traditional banjo rear with ohv engines power......
     
  7. doctorZ
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    i made my own bells for my diff. if i send you the center section, can you do the machining and minor assembly for me? i have the locker i want to use. also, do you sell the axles that fit the 1940 style MT Lincoln brakes?
     
  8. patina steve
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    Hot Rod Works has done two conversions for me, their work is impecable, I would highly recommed their parts and conversions. There are many cars at Bonneville that are running there rear ends.
     
  9. scootermcrad
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    Yep! Hot Rod Works did the conversion for me as well.

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  10. Clyde
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    If you want a locked rear end the 7.5" lockright for a Ford Ranger also can be fitted into a banjo center section with same machine work that the 7.5" spider gears are fitted. One can buy the 7.5" lockright in 28 and 31 spline, I have all the parts and have measured everthing up. Just have not ever finished the project. Hot Rod Works sells a lockright for this application, this is where I did the research to which one they where useing. I knew that they had to be useing a off the shelf part, not having one special made.
     
  11. Clyde, can you post pictures of the parts you have gathered?
     
  12. We built this rear axle using a Winters/Spadaro quick change center and Hot Rod Works side gears, axles, and bearing blocks. It also uses Wilson Welding Lincoln backing plates and M/T Lincoln drums.

    The machine work was not that difficult. But we did have to build a simple fixture to hang the axle housings off the mill table.

    If you are going to farm the work out at shop rate then sending your stuff to the Hot Rod Works makes sense. They know how to do it, have the set ups, and will give you a quick turnaround.
     

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  13. butch27
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  14. Ken Smith
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    doctorz, give us a call and we can work out what you need.
    208-463-1068
     
  15. Clyde
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    Tman,
    I have all the parts over in my second garage and will be out of town for a few days. Next week I will round things up and shot some pic's. I still need to do the write up and photo's of Darrin's car, which my dad finished here a few weeks ago.

    T
     
  16. Please do on both subjects! I saw your dad at the swapmeet but he got away before I could say hi. Was thinking of Darrin yesterday in fact. Thanks clyde.
     
  17. oj
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    This is worth reading again
     
  18. 1950ChevySuburban
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    Subscribed! Great timing with my project too!
     
  19. ANDEREGG TRIBUTE
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    Has anybody considered pick up 8" axles shortend and resplined to fit the original banjo gears....has that been done yet? Or is it even possible?
     
  20. The original axles and side gears are one piece. To use any late axle you must replace the side gears.

    The side gears that The Hot Rod Works sells are the most economical way to do the job. I'm told that 49-50 Mercury side gears will work if they are machined but that would cost as much, or more than gears from The Hot Rod Works.

    FYI I have attached an old article describing the process.

     

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  21. big duece
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    Well, I wanted to share another way to join the late model 9" ends on a banjo tube. Started with a fixture for narrowing a 9" that my father made years ago. Local machine shop made a collar for the carrier bearing to center the 1.5" shaft.
     

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  22. 55willys
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    So if you can use the lock right set up for the 7.5 rear could you also use the side and spider gears from one of those for an open diff?
     
  23. limp
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    Bump... Hoping for some more info that anyone might have regarding use of ranger parts in banjo rebuild...thanks
     
  24. big shitt
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    Bump!

    Hot rod works, is it possible to use finned buick drums and wilson/mt plates with your axle convertion kits?
    Thanks
     
  25. Mr48chev
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    [/QUOTE] Hot rod works, is it possible to use finned buick drums and wilson/mt plates with your axle convertion kits?
    Thanks[/QUOTE]
    Since it's a real old (but great) thread I'd contact them direct. http://www.hotrodworks.com/ That might save you waiting for him to see the thread and the question.
     
  26. big shitt
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    Mr48chev

    Email sent! Will post reply here if someone else is wondering the same
    Thanks

    Edit! You need to use the bearingends with partnumber 1060 to run lincoln style plates with buick drums

    Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  27. Jimmy2car
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    I did this change a few years ago, using a 1936 Ford rear end:
    I bought a junk 9" rear, then cut the housing ends off, keeping
    the brakes, drums, etc.
    I then took the bells to my local machine shop and had them remove
    the original ends and weld on the new 9" bearing ends. Came out great.
    Next, I had the machine shop do the machining of the carrier using the
    drawing shown in an old article. I also had to replace the spider gears
    with 11 tooth gears to replace the 12 tooth originals. (( I think this is only
    necessary for the earlier (36 & down)).
    Then I ordered new axles from Dutchman.
    This modification gave me the 5 x 5.5 bolt circle, removable axles and
    self adjusting 11 x 2.25 brakes.
    It's worked great for the last 8K miles
     
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  28. flatmotor40
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    from georgia

    Hot Rod Works did my banjo years ago on my 40
     
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