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Hot Rods Ford 302 question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 302aod, May 19, 2016.

  1. 302aod
    Joined: Dec 19, 2011
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    302aod
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    from Pelham,Tn.

    I built a 302 for my 64 F100, having built many, but this 1 is locked up. I haven't torn it down yet, I think it is the cam locking it up because it will turn until the slack in the timing chain is used up, about 1/16th. The engine came from an 83 Grand Marquis with central fuel injection. I installed the parts to make a fuel pump and a carb work, from a used 302 engine. My question is do they have a different front cover for a non fuel pump application? I think my cam is locked up because of the fuel pump eccentric hitting the front cover.
     
  2. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
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    from Phoenix,AZ

    There is an early and late timing chain on 302's Also check out the video and the one that follows it.
     
  3. Primered Forever
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    If it's double roller chain you need to two piece eccentric. It is not as thick as the one piece.
     
  4. Relic Stew
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    from Wisconsin

    The injection timing cover doesn't have provisions to mount a mechanical pump, so you'll need an older timing cover anyway.
     

  5. Mike51Merc
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    Sorry I can't help other than agree that the eccentric is likely the problem. With all due respect, this is why when I assemble a motor I give it one full rotation after each part gets installed. Learned the hard way when a main bearing cap was installed backwards once and caused a bind, after the motor was fully installed and ready to start up. Don't want to wait till the last minute to backtrack to find what's binding.
     
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  6. 302aod
    Joined: Dec 19, 2011
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    302aod
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    from Pelham,Tn.

    This engine is out of an 83 Grand Marquis and was the 1st year for fuel injection Relic. 82 had a VV carb. There was a cover bolted to the cover blocking off the fuel pump, but with the fuel pump cover unbolted, it was like the older ones, hole and all. I got an 85 Mustang GT engine 1st, that was hit in the front, the balancer and front cover were both broke, I pulled the pan off and the front main cap was ok, but the threaded holes for it were messed up, I think that is where I got the eccentric from, but not 100% sure Primered and I think it's the 2 piece, but not 100% sure of that either. I will know much more when I take the cover off. I plan to do a lot more measuring before I put it back together. I worked for dealerships for 26 years and built many engines, but this is the 1st time I've had any trouble.
     
  7. Mike51Merc
    Joined: Dec 5, 2008
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    The two piece eccentric was the earlier one (sorry don't know age range, but 1965 had them). They are a cup within a cup and they are thin gauge stamped steel, as opposed to the one piece which seems to be machined. When I installed my 2 row timing chain on my 1975 engine, the instructions called for the two piece. Luckily, I had one on hand.
     
  8. 302aod
    Joined: Dec 19, 2011
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    302aod
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    from Pelham,Tn.

    Thanks everybody for your help.
     

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