I'm actually considering a kit of these for my brother for Christmas (wouldn't mind some myself!!). Before I hit the button tho I'd like to know what size works best with 19ga steel - up to three sheet thickness. I see some say light duty but what the heck does that mean? Thanks in advance 345 Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
The clico's I use are the short body copper style. HRP Specification We supply the full range of Cleco Temporary Fasteners in Standard, Short, Extended and Heavy-duty versions. Choose the type of Cleco to suit your requirements, or contact us for help and advice in selecting the best sheet metal fastener for your application. This range of Cleco fasteners has a plier operated spring-loaded plunger. Strong and durable, they are designed for the precise holding of sheet metal while other operations are completed. Cleco Temporary Fasteners can be installed easily with our Cleco Pliers C200. Get in touch today! For orders and enquiries, contact us by telephone or email. Callers within the UK, Tel: 01698 426662 Outwith the UK, Tel: +44 1698 426662 C Series – for work up to 1/4" grip length Part No. C-3/32 C-1/8 C-5/32 C-3/16 Cross Ref. M-3/32 M-1/8 M-5/32 M-3/16 Colour Code Zinc Copper Black Brass Grip 0 - 1/4" 0 - 1/4" 0 - 1/4" 0 - 1/4" Diameter 3/32" 1/8" 5/32" 3/16" Drill Size #40 #30 #21 #10 CC Series – shorter body for work up to 1/4" grip length The CC Series miniature Cleco fasteners have a shorter body and are designed for normal clamping force in more confined areas. Part No. CC-3/32 CC-1/8 CC-5/32 CC-3/16 Cross Ref. MM-3/32 MM-1/8 MM-5/32 MM-3/16 Colour Code Zinc Copper Black Brass Grip 0 - 1/4" 0 - 1/4" 0 - 1/4" 0 - 1/4" Diameter 3/32" 1/8" 5/32" 3/16" Drill Size #40 #30 #21 #10 CL Series – for work 1/4" to 1/2" grip length Part No. CL-3/32 CL-1/8 CL-5/32 CL-3/16 Cross Ref. ML-3/32 ML-1/8 ML-5/32 ML-3/16 Colour Code Zinc Copper Black Brass Grip 1/4" - 1/2" 1/4" - 1/2" 1/4" - 1/2" 1/4" - 1/2" Diameter 3/32" 1/8" 5/32" 3/16" Drill Size #40 #30 #21 #10 CHD Series – for heavy-duty applications up to 1/2" grip length Part No. CHD-3/32 CHD-1/8 CHD-5/32 CHD-3/16 Cross Ref. MHD-3/32 MHD-1/8 MHD-5/32 MHD-3/16 Colour Code Zinc Copper Black Brass Grip 0 - 1/2" 0 - 1/2" 0 - 1/2" 0 - 1/2" Diameter 3/32" 1/8" 5/32" 3/16" Drill Size #40 #30 #21 #10
I almost always use pop rivets after removing my clecos, therefore I have 1/8 inch and 3/16.Buy the pliers save yourself some cussing.The best use of these,in my shop anyway, is holding the loops for wiring, you can take them off and on to add wiring until you are finished.
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they sell are great for holding panels you do not want holes in or for holding items that are not big enough for holes . I have several of them
In the late 60's there was a surplus place in Grand Prairie Texas that had barrels of Clecos from Chance Vought....used for 10 cents each. Cleco pliers were a buck. El Cheapo me only bought 25 clecos. Anyone who uses clecos quickly finds that the need several sizes to accommodate the hole size or panel thickness. McMaster sells them and the flat faced cleco clamps.
A Mom & Pop store was going out of biz 3 years ago...I bought 3 bags of Clecos, wish I'd bought 10! Absolutely the handiest 'holders' I've had since my apprentice grew up and went off to seek his fortune... It was an 'older woman' he left with...God knows I am left with envy. Seamed nylon stockings, spike heels... but I still have my Clecos.
I would go with 1/8 and originally bought twenty five Added another 50 recently Note that I use these very rarely I have s much greater use for c clamp vise grips Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I use 4 sizes, but if I had to choose one, it would be 1/8" you can always make the holes bigger. The 5/32's are nice because they are tap size for 10/32 screws.
I use mine for everything. They sure come in handy. Bought them from Eastwood. I would search them on the internet. I use the 1/8" mostly.
We buy ours from Aircraft Speciality 262-853 1380 1/8 and 3/16 are the ones we use most. They run about .40 each per 100 You will find that quiet often 100 is not enough They have the pliers for about $5 SPEEDY
A friend of mine built an aluminum skinned home built airplane. He ended up with about 4000 clecos of various sizes, A bunch are on " permanent loan" to me now. An airplane wing is very heavy when it's held together with clecos. blue
Diameter is important. But to know if they will hold 3 pieces of metal you need to look at the grip length.
I use Cleco's,very useful! In my opinion,I would use a longer grip length for 3 layers of 19 gauge,especially if you either have NO obstructions under the panels or if you are attaching to tubing,etc.,under the panels.The problem I have seen with self tapping screws is the panels can move during insertion,especially if not held securely!I have been a Sheet Metal Fabricator for 40+ years and have used both methods! ROY.
Those would be a great gift. We couldn't live without ours. We have both 1/8 amd 3/16 and seem to use the larger ones more, but both are handy. Don
Thanks everyone - I just placed an order at the Yard Store http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/2,398.html 1/8 and 3/16 $0.42 each and the tool $4.95 with a grip. Best prices I found so I ordered some of the longer ones too and some side clamps. They have a free shipping deal right now which made this sweeter. Oh... I did double up the quantities so Santa will have no problem dropping some of these into my stocking brother will be happy too!!
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