Hot Rods Car Id help needed

This car belonged to my friendsGreat Grandfather.
Just judging from the cars features it's from about the 1912 to 1915 era. any Idea's on the make?

 

Amazing the size and girth of some of the early ones. Man, that would be fun to drive. Like a damned locomotive! I am of no help, but will be watching to see what it is.

 

Wow a real stumper!
I'm not surprised actually , I went through all my books plus internet searched and I couldn't come up with anything .

 

1919 or 20 Kissel

 

Looks a lot like an Apperson Jackrabbit, but I am guessing.

 

My father suggested Apperson but the pics I found didn't seem to match close enough.

 

Stude54ht , you may be onto something with the Kissel.
I think there is one down in Denver at the Forney Museum , good reason to head down there.

 

The one in Denver is Amelia Earharts. Although I think your picture might be of a Kissel, I've never seen photos of one with wood wheels.

 

That radiator shell is not Kissel Kar.

 

Yeah, most kissels have wire wheels and to me it looks older than 1920

 

Possibly a Premier(?)

 

Wouldn't that be crazy if it was something "put together" ? The grille, hood, and cowl throw me off......but the downward frame rails and fenders give me the Overland Speedster vibe. As well....that windscreen sure looks familiar....but what ??

Check this out....fenders and frame rails only :




Hell even the 12 spoke wheels look the same as..........above............with the bumper just sitting on the front rails.....with no (seemingly) support whatsoever.
????????????

 

A one off built from parts is not out of the question.
There is a pic in one of my old Floyd Clymer books of a car being assembled in the early 1900s in a back yard in Dayton Ohio from new parts obtained from several different sources.

 

Two cars come to mind, Owen Magnetic, and Daniels. Check the photos of these cars they share some features. Bob

 

I still think it could be a Kissel

 

It was identified on the AACA site. It is a 1914 Oakland 6-48 Light Six

 

Thanks Carl I posted it over there at the AACA site some time ago and when I didn't get a reply I kind of forgot about it.

 

Looks like I am still going to do some investigating.
Reading some on Oakland and it appears they didn't make the switch from RH to LH drive until 1915

 

Got a photo for comparison? It does not look like an Oakland, to me.

 

I'm with you 31Dodger
I haven't come up with a frt end pic of a 1914 but I have found some of a 12 and a17 and they don't look as convincing as say a kissel.

 

1914 Oakland speedster

 

I love mysteries! It is helped along by the fact you could by an engine from Seats in the teens/twenties and put it in your home built chassis or car. I have a neighbor that is restoring a Sears now and have learned a few things from Him.

 

The front grill sure looks like a 1914 Oakland, the body looks to have been converted to a speedster. I could not find any photos of a factory speedster built that year.


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Is this a factory car, a stock vehicle?


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I ran a search to match the grill and body lines and found this to be the closest. I do not know anything about the image but it appears rather current and not a "factory" photo.