Anyone know the S10 T5 input shaft lengths by the specific years? My Chevy T5 has a 7.16 inch shaft length. VanPelt sells an S10 T5 with a 6.69 inch shaft length. I believe the S10 flathead adapters are designed around the 6.69 inch shaft. Also, what is the Astro T5 shaft length, I have seen a 6.50 inch reference.
If the information is in that article I can't find it. Have read it many times, could you point out where I'm missing it?
Didn't know if it was in there or not, just knew it had alot of info. Maybe if someone chimes in with the info you are wanting they can add it to that thread.
That is the problem I have been running into, there are lots for T5s to flathead articles, but all I have found talk in general terms. They say something like long or short, longer than the other one or something like than. I was interested in the actual lengths and the years associated with them.
Start with the first one and work your way down. http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/transmissions-drivetrain/399454-t5-input-shaft-length.html http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml http://www.britishv8.org/articles/borg-warner-t5-id-tags.htm Nick
I have read all of these articles before, don't see anything about Chevy T5 input shaft length, am I missing something?
I know S10 T5 shafts are longer than Camaro T5 shafts.. I had to cut the S10 shaft down to run it behind my SBC.. I do not know how all this relates to flatheads.. Cutting the shaft down and extending the splines was not that big of a deal to do.. I measured the shaft length from my old 3 spd and cut the S10 T5 to the same length and cut the spline to match also...
Any idea what your shaft length was before you cut it? I think the early ones were 6.96 and the later ones 7.16. That's what I was attempting to pin down when they changed from 6.96 to 7.16. The one I currently have is the 7.16 with the electronic speedometer.
I also simply cut the input shaft shorter when I installed a T5 (I had to - it bottomed out). We're talking .20-inch between the two models here so I'm guessing you don't need to sweat it.
How did you determine that, I have this chart and didn't see anything about the earlier S10s, I see a 93 and an 89 4x4. I have seen all of the stuff that's online (at least I think I have, been looking for three years). VanPelt says 6.96, that's why I'm attempting to figure out which years are which. Guess I need to post all the files I have saved (its a lot of them) LOL. None of this answers what I am asking.
It's not a problem for me at all, I am going a completely different way with mine. I have just spent a lot of time looking at the S10 information and people are always asking about the adapters. I would like to know what the answers are. Just seems strange no one seems to know. On the Ford T5 you can look up any spec you want on any year (most likely because of the mustang guys), but still seems odd that the information is not readily available on the S10s (and other Chevy) T5s.
There is a difference in input shaft length between the petrol and diesel s10 t5, see pic. Hope that helps Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
T4/T5 NWC 670G 8 3/4” (21 T) (Camaro & Astro Van)................................................................................ 346670AA 1352-085-012 670G 8 3/4” (22 T, 14 Spline) (Camaro & Astro Van)............................................................... 346670AB 1352-085-040 670G 8 3/4” (24 T, 26 Spline) (Camaro V8) (83-87)................................................................. 346670CB 1352-085-010 670G 8 7/8” (21 T) (84 S10 2.2L & 82-84 S10 & Isuzu 1.9L)................................................... 346670CA 1352-085-004 670G 9 1/4” (21 T, 14 Spline) (S10).......................................................................................... 346670C 1352-085-003 670G 9 1/4” (21 T) & 24 Spline (Isuzu)..................................................................................... 346670AC 1352-085-063 670G 9 1/4” (24 T) (Mustang V8) (83-84)................................................................................. 346670A 1352-085-011 670G 9 5/16” (21 T, 10 Spline) (Jeep)...................................................................................... 346670AG 1351-085-008 670G 9 5/16” (21 T, 14 Spline) (Jeep)...................................................................................... 346670D 1351-085-010 670G 9 5/16” (22 T) (280Z Turbo) (82-83)................................................................................
T5 WC 670F 8 3/4” (24 T, 26 Spline) (88-92 Camaro V8).................................................................... 346670AF 1352-085-019 670F 8 7/8” (21 T) (92-00 Isuzu).............................................................................................. 346670BC 1352-085-049 670F 9 1/4” (21 T, 14 Spline - Short) (93 S10 2.5L & 2.8L, 89-92 Isuzu)................................. 346670CD 1352-085-045 670F 9 1/4” (21 T, 14 Spline - Long) (88-92 Camaro V6)........................................................ 346670CC 1352-085-043 670F 9 1/4” (21 T, 26 Spline) (93-95 S10 2.2L)....................................................................... 346670CF 1352-085-048 670F 9 1/4” (23 T) (85-92 Mustang V8) (Except Tapered Pocket Bearing Type)..................... 346670BA 1352-085-025 670F 9 1/4” (23 T) (93 Mustang) (Tapered Pocket Bearing Type)........................................... 346670BD 1352-085-050 670F 9 1/4” (24 T) (85-93 Mustang SVO) (Except Tapered Pocket Bearing Type)................. 346670B 1352-085-020 670F 9 1/4” (24 T) (85-93 Mustang SVO & Cobra) (Tapered Pocket Brg Type)...................... 346670BG 1352-085-060 670F 9 1/4” (24 T, 26 Spline) (93-01 Camaro) (Exc Tapered Pocket Brg Type)...................... 346670CE 1352-085-047 670F 9 3/4” (24 T) (Mustang Cobra) (Tapered Pocket Brg Type)............................................ 346670BH 1352-085-056 670F 9 9/16” (19 T) (87-93 Mustang & Thunderbird 4 cyl.)..................................................... 346670BB 1352-085-038 670F 9 9/16” (21 T) (85-86 Thunderbird 4 cyl.)........................................................................ 346670AD 1352-085-017 670F 10” (23 T) (94-01 Mustang V6) (Exc Tapered Pocket Brg Type).................................... 346670BE 1352-085-052 670F 10” (23 T) (94-95 Mustang V8) (Exc Tapered Pocket Brg Type).................................... 346670BE 1352-085-052 670F 10” (23 T) (94-95 Mustang Cobra) (Tapered Pocket Bearing Type)...............................
ignore the 670F....its the ID number from the parts diagram. The dimension that follows it is the input shaft length.
I don't think they did in the states. But there might have been a diesel izusu which is the same thing.
Are these numbers the overall input shaft/gear length? I have looked at them before and I can't see much use for them, because they install somewhat different into the case. That changes the length from the front of the case (mating surface) to the end of the input shaft, which is what is needed to determine adapter thickness. Is that how you see it or am I missing something? Edit: And thanks for the input, it is interesting for sure.
I don't know for sure. It doesn't say in the catalog. I would think it would be the overall. Still helpful though because it shows the tooth count and spline count so you know which ones are interchangeable with the tooth count/spline count you have.
Yep, a lot of good information. But what I don't understand is the differences you get when you subtract the input shaft lengths from the overall lengths of the shafts. You do not get a consistent number. As an example: Fords SVO chart says the input shaft length of a 85-86 T-Bird is 7.41, from the catalog the overall is 9.56. That is a difference of 2.15. For a 85-93 mustang it is 7.18 and 9.25 = 2.07 and for a 94-95 mustang it is 7.85 and 10.0 = 2.15. Not a lot of difference, but still, not consistent.
Did this ever get figured out? I'm about to install an s10 t5 in my '51 Chev and I planned on doing the jeep input shaft swap to avoid a custom clutch disc
I need to improve this as i won't remember about the excluding pocket bearing type Have the 03 up Camaro 26 spline input 24t 9.1/4 Need the 10 spline 9 1/4 24 t Mustang but excluding pivketbwaring
Aha they all have pocketed bearings The common style is 15 roller bearings in the pocket 1352-085-020 is the Mustang 24t at 9 1/4 inch length, 10 spline 1.1/8'' girth. 15 roller - same as 96 up V6 Camaro The other style is a single taper roller pocket bearing cobra mustang So the info is confusing, ',excluding pocket bearing ' means 15 rollers The 085-020 is the one you want, even though the add has the words pocket braring
well it came. but alas didn't have the bearing pressed on does anyone know the Timken bearing number for t5 input shafts? thanks
Holy cow harv, I can't thank you enough for pointing to this document. I did search on the H.A.M.B. but ultimately found this thread from google looking for the input shaft length. I was trying to figure out if the WC and NWC have the same bearing race outer dimension, as I preferably need a 10 spline with a 21 tooth gear, and I wasn't sure if the WC and NWC were the same size. I could only find a NWC input shaft. I have a '46 Chevy bell housing with a '95 Ford bolt pattern WC T5. After one mis-order, your post led me to that document. And thank you txturbo, this helps a great deal also. Thank you both so much for posting this info.
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