Technical who has modified their 40 front brakes to self energizing?

Rather than spend big bucks for some new self energizing backing plate assemblies, there must be a way to do it yourself. gotta retain the 40 backing plates and the old drums to mount 35 wires though. what car provided the parts, and what was the setup?

 

Didn't Chris at Salt Flats Speed Shop do that? I think I saw it on here.

 

Look for a post by Andy in this thread: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7040&highlight=brakes+wagon&showall=1

or this guy did one: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436824&highlight=brakes



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Brian Bass Bass kustom does them too. look him up Basskustom.com

 

The Salt Flats SS build is here,

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=409078

the brake conversion is post 1194 on page 60.

 

Geez I type slow. The one I refer to is a 32 Tudor build. Looks like F100 wheel cylinder, maybe later 12" ford pickup shoes and adjusters?

 

i can do that, but nobody mentions what exact parts they used.

 

I've got the parts list somewhere. I'll try and dig it up for you.

 

Andy said he uses all 71-76 Chevy Wagon rear brake parts. But somewhere he talked about going to a larger bore WC. Not sure what from.

I like the idea of using most parts from one car, so you can walk up to NAPA and say "I need these parts from a '75 Chevy Wagon".

 

I will spend the money and have Brian Bass do mine. He's way smarter than I am & will be about the only thing of his I can afford, besides maybe a hat... or a shirt...
http://www.basskustom.com/blog/

 

so 12 X 1 3/4 shoes from a 76 wagon, 1 1/8 bore cyls from a ???, non-self adjusting hardware from a ???. bass is nice for $500, but i like doing stuff myself. then i can spend the other $400 on other things.

 

The '76 wagon shoes are 2". About all the 12" shoes you'll find from self engergizing brakes will be 2" wide. Except maybe early Lincoln stuff.

Andy mentions you can grind down the shoes to 1.75", and that is exactly what Wilson Welding does when somebody orders a narrow set.

Shouldn't matter with '40 or Buick drums though. The 2" shoes will fit in them.

 

with some google searching i see that 48-50 packards use 12" x 1 3/4" shoes. the rest of the hardware and cylinder may work also.

 

There a guy on Ebay selling 12x1 3/4 Packard shoes for $75 an axle. If you go to his Ebay store he list a lot of hard to find stuff.

 

i'll check it out.

 

Never did 40 brakes that way. But I have made Model A self energizing.
That is what I have on the front of my Roadster in the picture.

 

I have found a couple of sights that have modified ford backing plates and give details seabrighthotrods.com/?p=167 and hotrodsandhemis.com/front brakes.com.html. Hope this helps Doug

 

Leave out the second .com on the hotrodsandhemishemis web address sorry for the screw up Doug

 

Thanks to those who have mentioned the self-energizing brake conversion that I offer. I have done quite a few of these now, and I must say that there is a lot more to it than just finding the correct shoes and wheel cylinders. And if you want it to actually look good when you are done, then that's another story altogether. I pride myself in delivering a finished product that not only works, but also gives the appearance of never being altered.

I use off-the-shelf shoes and wheel cylinders, and all new hardware. Some of the hardware is still available, and some of the parts I either make in-house or have made for the conversion.

In the photo below, you can see the difference before (right) and after (left).



The other side:



This is one of the backing plates I did for my roadster, which has also been drilled and chromed. I metal-finish all welds to the point that the backing plates are suitable for chrome.



Yes, the base conversion cost of $475.00 (plus shipping) may sound steep at first blush, but if you were to attempt this yourself, you would understand why it costs what it does. There really is a considerable amount of labor involved, added to what the necessary parts to complete the conversion cost.

-Brian

 

Looks like a good deal to me Brian, sometimes it is hard to remember that a $100 isn't worth much anymore.

 

Very nice Brian

 

Beautiful, in fact.....

 

Brain, do you offer the conversion for banjo Ford rears also?

 

what width are '40 shoes? 2" or 1 3/4" ? damn tempting, those bass units, but we'll see how my conversion goes. what wheel cylinder does that look like?

 

Shoes are 1.75", but drums are 2".

 

can anyone ID those wheel cylinders? shooting for 1 1/8" bore.

 

Looks good Brian. I scored some 46-48 plates and when the time is right, I will be getting with you.

 

Yes, I do rear brakes also (same price)...and I just started offering an optional rear emergency brake kit that will work with original Ford cables.

 

Brian - is your kit designed around the 32-36 floor brake handle or would it also work for
the later dash pull handle?