Features Can a 1963 Dodge Dart be cool?

I don't see myself
Doing any canyon carving with it that's for sure. Lol I know guys that run them
But have personally never have or even driven a car running them. That's why I asked. I do love the look of them that's for sure.


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I
Need to find a rear end that fits better of have this one cut down, or I wonder if I could get a some
Chrome steelies with the right about of
Back spacing. It seems the rear is way to wide. It's a B body rear. Has anybody pulled this off with the right amount of
Back spacing to where it
Looked ok?


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Has anybody seen what I discribed and did it look ok?


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Can't go wrong with Cragars!

 

Do you mean like these?

Check this thread: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264040

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I saw that thread, thank you. I was also referring to the running of a wider b body rear end in an A body. I'm wondering if I can run steelies with a big amount of back spacing


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From: http://www.bigblockdart.com/techpages/875axle.shtml

Axle Housing and Axle demensions

The following is a listing of flange to flange widths for various year 8-3/4" housings. This is a measure of the bare housing, with brake backing plates removed, from the outside of the flange across to the outside of the other flange. Chrysler part numbers are listed as well for the purpose of showing a distinction between some housings and axles.
<TABLE width="100%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>Part#</TH><TH>Application</TH><TH>Flange to Flange Width</TH><TH>Notes</TH></TR><TR><TD>1045744
1945745
2070259
2070269
2070270
2070960
</TD><TD>57-62 fullsize 63-64 Chrysler/880 </TD><TD>55-5/8" (est.)</TD><TD>8-1/4" axles 57-61 have different housing part numbers.
SG axle shorter than open rear axle, except for 1964 models. </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD>65 C-body</TD><TD>unknown</TD><TD>axle 2404228 same as A-100 vans and trucks.</TD></TR><TR><TD><TR><TD>2800175</TD><TD>66 C-body</TD><TD>unknown</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>2881003</TD><TD>69 C-body</TD><TD>56-7/16"</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>2881310</TD><TD>69 C-body wagon</TD><TD>59-7/64"</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD>70 C-body</TD><TD>57-3/4"</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>2070231</TD><TD>60-62 Imperial</TD><TD>unknown</TD><TD>Imperials: 57-63 SG, all 64 axle 1829267</TD></TR><TR><TD>2070961</TD><TD>63-64 Imperial</TD><TD>unknown</TD><TD>Imperials: 57-63 open axle 1675449</TD></TR><TR><TD>2404208</TD><TD>65-66 Imperial</TD><TD>unknown</TD><TD>different from above axles, 2404139</TD></TR><TR><TD>2800224</TD><TD>69 Imperial</TD><TD>unknown</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>2070539</TD><TD>62-63 B-body
64 Max Wedge</TD><TD>53-1/4"</TD><TD>

• Parts Manuals list four different axles for this housing:
• 2070573 - 741 case w/o SG 30-1/2" overall;
• 2404003 - 742 case w/o SG 30-1/2" overall;
• 2070695 - 741 case SG 30-7/16" overall;
• 2404050 - 742 case SG 30-7/16" overall;

</TD></TR><TR><TD>2404271</TD><TD>64 B-body except Max Wedge.</TD><TD>55-5/8" (est)</TD><TD>1/8" - 1/4" narrower than 2070270 (fullsize Chrysler) housing. axle length 31-1/2" overall. </TD></TR><TR><TD>2404143</TD><TD>65 B-body</TD><TD>54-1/2"</TD><TD>uses axle 2404223</TD></TR><TR><TD>2643409</TD><TD>66-67 B-body</TD><TD>54-1/4"</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>2852838</TD><TD>68-69 B-body</TD><TD>54-15/16"</TD><TD>same as 1970 B-body, 1/32" difference </TD></TR><TR><TD>3432295</TD><TD>70 B-body </TD><TD>54-29/32"</TD><TD>same as 1968-69 B-body, 1/32" difference </TD></TR><TR><TD>3507502</TD><TD>71-73 B-body</TD><TD>57-47/64"</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>3507501</TD><TD>71-73 C-body
71-73 B-body SW
</TD><TD>59-1/8"</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>2800227
3432647
3432295
</TD><TD>66-72 A-body </TD><TD>52-13/64" (70-71) 52-37/64" (72)</TD><TD>4" bolt circle, used 10x1-3/4" drums. These demensions come from 1970,71,72 Factory Parts Manuals </TD></TR><TR><TD>2852882</TD><TD>70-74 E-body</TD><TD>56-7/16"</TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​

Rear Axle Drum to Drum Measurements



This page compliments the other axle information with drum to drum
measurements based on car line. These measurements are taken from stock
rears with stock brakes and drums for that model.


A-body 66-72 -------------------------- 57 1/8"
B-Body 62-63 -------------------------- 58 1/2"
64-67(except 64 Max Wedge) - 59 1/2"
68-70 -------------------------- 60 1/8"
71-74 -------------------------- 63"
71-73 Wagons ----------------- 64 3/8"
C-Body 65-69 -------------------------- 61 3/4"
70-71(Chrysler and Fury)------ 63"
70-73(and 69 Wagons) -------- 64 3/8"
D-Body
(Imperial) 65-66 -------------------------- 61 15/16"
67-69 -------------------------- 62 5/16"
70-71 -------------------------- 59 3/4"
72-73 -------------------------- 64 9/16"
E Body 70-74 -------------------------- 61 5/8"

The following chart can be found in the Mopar Performance Chassis Manual. the distance between spring perches is an accurate reference, however the Track listing is the source of a lot of misconceptions. Track is the distance between the two tires, and includes a proportion of the actual tire track, or patch where it contacts the ground. The chart below tends to lead people to believe that all 62-70 B-body 8-3/4 rearends are the same width, not true!

Body line - Track - Perches - Notes

A-body, 65-72 55.6 43.0 4" lug bolt circle
B-body, 62-70 59.2 44.0
B-body, 71-72 62.0 47.3
B-body station wagon, 71-72 63.4 47.3
C-body, 64-72 63.4 47.3
D-body, 64-72 63.4 47.3
E-body, 70-74 60.7 46.0

 

Thanks for the info


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So I have some work to do to
Get it to where I will
Be happy with it like wheels and tires but its a super
Clean rust free A body


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I love 63 darts all plain four door, cloth seats and v6 badges. I think they make a perfect sleeper. Maybe drop it a little bit and done, no outward clues of what is hiding under the hood.

 

If it's cool to you that's all that matters!

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I guess I should have rephrased the title to "let's see some cool Darts" lol I am pretty excited about it, I can't wait to get it in the garage and tweak it to my liking.. Of course what I like is completely different from what others like, and that's what makes this whole thing fun....

 

Do any older mopars have rims with say 5 to 6" back spacing?


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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=productdetailtitle colSpan=2>MOPAR REPRODUCTION OE STEEL WHEELS - 15" x 8"

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=productdetaildescription colSpan=2>OE-style replacement steel wheel for various Dodge and Plymouth models. Manufactured to accept any replacement or original dog dish style hub cap. Features correct black satin finish. Valve stem not included.

• Size: 15" x 8"
• Lug Pattern: 5" x 4-1/2"
• Backspacing: 4-1/2"

Note: Shipped overweight.

http://www.classicindustries.com/mopar/parts/mw861.html

I had these on the rear of my van back in "75. Stock steel wheel for a Ramcharger.



Note bolt spacing is 4.5"
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I had picked up a '62 Dart and had asked myself the same question then I thought I'd put a straight axle underneath it. That makes just about anything cool!!

 

Yeah there cool! Make a Poisen Dart Gasser!

 

So the vans have a steel rim with a good amount of back spacing. Good to know, I will be on the hunt. And my buddies the Root Brothers have there 65 dart lettered up with the POISON DART on it! It's a killer car!


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not the vans! Ramcharger!

 

Six cylinder Darts didn't have any badging, and pretty sure they never made a V6 either. Slant 6.

 

Thanks for the great info, on my I phone your info didn't show up as it does on my I-pad. Damn technology !

 

I get all of my Steelie's made by the guys at The Wheel Smith, click here: http://www.thewheelsmith.net/


Pick up the phone and talk to them.... great folks and the most reasonable prices anywhere.

Glenn

 

Most stock I Beam axles are to wide . I have A 100 I Beam out of a Van its 5" to wide so we are shorting it to bring the front tires under the fenderwells . Looks real bad this way and Im lowering it 4" also

 

I was told its out of a 55 ford truck, it may be a touch wide but with tall skinnier on it it should be fine


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I have tried that you will not get to look right with just wheels and tires the most offset you can get is 1.5" on a 4" wheel and I used a 125 x 15 Firestone

http://www.cokertire.com/brands/firestone/125r15-firestone-f560-blackwall-tire.html


Part: RRR23-546115
Size: 15x4
Back Space: 1.50
Hub ID:
Load Rating:

It still will not look symmetrical to the fenders

 

I have a 63 gt

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Guess my pics won't work here

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I get what your saying as far as track width, and it's true a inch or 2 makes a huge difference. I'm gonna get my wheels and tires and see what the track width looks like and then if I'm not happy I will approach it then. At the moment my rear end width is what has me really concerned. I need to get the wheels tucked into the wheel wells so I can try to soften up the rear end some...

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2008766&d=1376921496

What rear is under your car? Is it stock? And what rear rim are you using? I need mine to look like that BAD!

 

Mine is a 8.8 out of a mustang with 15x7 rims stock offset