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  1. Screamingyellow68
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    I'm building a 32' ford Highboy roadster and our state requires a parking brake on assembled cars. Not to be confused with an emergency brake. I've checked my options and the easiest solution seems to be a line lock device on the rear brakes. They sell them at Speedway. Anyone ever try these? I have a auto trans so a parking brake is sort of silly. But I have to pass inspection any ideas would be great. Thanks
     
  2. Crystal Blue
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    Damn, around here, an emergency brake and parking brake are the same thing. Just depends on who is saying it. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Screamingyellow68
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    I would agree with you Crystal Blue but they tell me I don't have to have an E -brake only a parking brake .I'm going to give them what they ask for. Besides it makes my life easier .
     
  4. harrington
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  5. I guess an emergency brake is a secondary braking system where a parking brake is a device to hold a car still after it is parked?

    you know, back in the early days of the Model A Ford had to install "emergency" brakes on the cars to be able to sell them in some states. this secondary brake was not part of the original design, I think the thing was that it had to be seperate from the "service" brakes. this was just on the very first '28 cars. and later they were all built with this emergency brake. that is why the running board splash shields have a hump in them to clear the linkage.....so the story goes but who cares.
     
  6. Pete1
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    A solenoid line lock will release if the battery goes low.
    Automatic transmissions have been known to be knocked out of park when the car was bumped also.
     
  7. Bureaucracy at the DMV is enough to drive a person crazy,,HRP

    An emergency brake is a separate brake system in a vehicle for use in case of failure of the regular (hydraulic or air) brakes and commonly used as a parking brake in automobiles.

    The parking brake, also called hand brake, emergency brake, or e-brake, is a latching brake usually used to keep the vehicle stationary
     
  8. Mico makes all kinds of brake locks. Check with truck equipment dealers.
     
  9. steves29
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    Park brake, emergency brake. Call it what you want. Separate meens of braking. If it will hold it parked thats what they want.
     
  10. V8 Bob
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    A legal (logical) parking/emergency brake has to be mechanically activated, not hydraulic, in all 50 states, to the best of my knowledge. Line locks are strictly for racing purposes, not for street. Not sure why you think a park brake is not an E brake. :confused: The auto trans park feature works great when your not moving, but does nothing if you need additional braking while at speed.

    It's not that difficult or expensive to run a proper cable system, just not the "easiest solution". :)
     
  11. steves29
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    Yes it has to be separate mechanical device. I call it a parking brake. If you need it to stop THEN you do have an emergency!
     
  12. GassersGarage
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    I used a Lokar mechanical parking. emergency brake.
     
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  13. steves29
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    What are you using for a rear axle snd brake setup?
     
  14. FINKSTR
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    I would think as long as you have a mechanical locking feature on your emergancy brake handle that maintains it in a locked position you would meet the requirements of an emergancy brake as well as a parking brake.
     
  15. MT26
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    I am using a Pinion Mount system from Wintec Fabrication. Speedway also has one.
     
  16. Cerberus
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    I built a 1936 "special construction" car. The State of CA requires a parking brake to pass inspection. I used a Mustg II floor mounted parking brake handle with Lokar's twin cable system to the rear backing plates of a Ford 8". Very easy to install.
     

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  17. An E brake stops the car, a parking locks the brakes. as long as your E brake locks you have a parking brake. I would fight this. if you are getting nowhere post up the written law and I bet we can get you ok
     
  18. fleetside66
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    It's not a bad thing, esp. if you have a standard shift. Otherwise, you'd have to park with your car in gear & carry around wheel chocks for hill situations. Your '32 coasting down a hill with no driver is not something you'd want to picture. I realize that you have an automatic trans, but the idea of the transmission holding a car still on a hill never quite set well with me. Why not just rig up a standard system? Get an E-brake handle/mechanism from salvage yard, Ebay or a place like Lokar & plumb the thing appropriately. If a mechanical knucklehead like me can do it, anyone can. Do a search here & you'll get a clue of the general procedure...if you have specific questions, ask them & you will get several answers.
     
  19. jazz1
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    Did the same thing on my '41 truck using s10 rear,,likely a common "upgrade"
     
  20. metalshapes
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    Sounds like what you are looking for is the parking brake they sell for Sandrails.

    You push on your footbrake, push the button down on the lock and then when you take your foot off the brake it keeps pressure on the ( rear ) brakes.

    To release them you push down on the foot brake again.

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  21. papastoyss
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    I had a brake failure at 70mph on a 37 Ford once, sure was glad I took the time to install a mechanical emergency brake while building the car!
     
  22. Service brakes and e-brake have to be applied seperatly in all 50 states. No line locks!!
     
  23. Fenders
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    First intelligent comment ... OP should have stated that in the first post.
     
  24. VoodooTwin
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    I can't imagine building a rod WITHOUT a proper emergency brake. :confused:
     
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  25. propwash
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    You may note that the term "emergency brake" has fallen from use with all manufacturers. Simple reason is that those lever/cable-actuated brakes really won't stop many modern cars in an emergency, and because of the possibility (or LIKELIHOOD) of a lawsuit from some dimbulb who fully expected that mechanism to stop his 3-Ton Lincoln Towncar, they are referred to solely as 'parking brakes'. The lever-actuated ones that have buttons for release are great, because it doesn't require much coordination to use them as an auxiliary method of stopping the car if necessary. Trying to use the foot-operated parking brake as an emergency brake is a lot more dicey. Most states do not recognize "Line-Loc" type mechanisms as meeting the requirement for an 'emergency' or 'parking' brake. Neither does NSRA for that matter.
     
  26. Tnomoldw
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    :)These units have been used for 50-60 years, Fleet trucks /delivery used them. Most trucks are diesel now, have air brakes.:cool::D
     
  27. Tnomoldw
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    ;):eek:Here :D
     

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  28. bgaro
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    lokar cables to an opel hand brake worked for me. if your gonna use linelock put it up front the way god intended.
     
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  29. indyjps
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    Take a wheel boot in with you during your inspection, if its good enough for the police to keep your vehicle in one spot, it should be good enough for the DMV
     
  30. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Here's mine.
    Bolts to floor board, has button on top for release.
    Bottom of unit has arm to connect to both backing plate cables for a clean installation.
     

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