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51 Chevy Sedan rearend mistreatment

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by msalamanca, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. msalamanca
    Joined: May 25, 2011
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    The Plan:
    2" rear fenders extenstion
    1" lower rear fender drop
    1" top of the rear fender drop and flowed up into existing fron of the fender
    49-51 ford windspits and tail lights added
    gas door shave
    Deck lid lock shave fit gaps

    But like usual there can be a can of worms opened, and I did. But me being me, I couldnt leave them.

    I appreciate Mike (blown240) for letting me cut up his car. Its been ten years that I have done custom stuff like this. After I left a shop and directed my attention to upright bass, touring etc I have come full circle. So much forgotten and to relearn and learn. I have a couple other cars lined up, besides my own. Anyhoot here it is. Be nice I am a born again virgin.

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  2. msalamanca
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    I resized all the pics and then added to photobucket, why does it do that? crap!!!
     
  3. msalamanca
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    going to lunch be right back
     
  4. msalamanca
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    cut it out. braced it up a bit.
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    first worm whole
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    Cut out, patched and primer
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    Making mike wash my clothes
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    dropped an inch and moved back 2
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    top cut off
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    Dropped another 1" or so in the back
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  5. lawman
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    This is a good thread. Please keep posting.
     
  6. msalamanca
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    more worms, there was some damage done to this side, I should of taken it all to bare metal before making the cuts. A small tree of some sorts had fallen on this side. pushed in the alot of the lines didnt match
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    drivers side
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    you can see the top int he back on the floor and the gaps not good
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    Gap is bad
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    More worms
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    Jude saying hurry up, cut open bottom was rotted and had to be dropped anyways.
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    Never mint the dirty left weld seams.
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    extended the pan to the new length and curve of the fenders
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    new bracing
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    Had to slice the apron up and bend it a bit to go into the new slope.
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  7. BJR
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    Keep it coming, looking good.
     
  8. msalamanca
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    for the gaps and the next can of worms. I had to slice the jam open and move it back almost an inch on one side and about a half on the other
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    Then fit and welded the decklid closed
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    Didnt have an english while yet
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    So this was handy
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    worms
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  9. indyjps
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    Keep going, I'm liking where this is headed
     
  10. black 62
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    from arkansas

    looking good---can't wait
     
  11. msalamanca
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    rest of the damage from what ever fell on it. You can see at the corner it get all jacked, like a turn on a window
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    laying the new strip in the drivers side
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    L ow and Highs
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    I tacked welded it into as tight a fit over the fender as possible. then cut inbetween the tacks to bring them together
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    Then left this as I figured I would will in the rest
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    Result a decent but weld
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    cleaned up<a href="http://s1091.beta.photobucket.com/user/mattsalamanca/media/Mikes%2051%20Chev/IMG_0476_zps7837a94a.jpg.html" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>

    Drivers side almost complete, alittle more metal work. plus have to the do the front of the fender.
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    pass side, I was not happy with the way this looked. Metal was beat up from what ever fell on it.
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    First patch attempt with my new english wheel. It was a gift from a good older friend. Only had the 2" die.
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    its close but not spot on.
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  12. cosmic12
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    Looking good! Glad to see you doing this I was going to extend the rear of my 52 for a connie kit. Enjoying watching you do it before I get crazy.:rolleyes:
     
  13. Finnrodder
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    This looks like a cool side project!
    Those windsplits are from your shoebox?
    Keep it up!
     
  14. dt50chev
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    Good looking work there.
     
  15. msalamanca
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    here are some more random stuff
    Gotta make due sometimes.
    This part of the fender was pushed in a 1"
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    Mocking up the bumper as it was dropped and extended. the pan is being fitted. gotta mold it in still. Putting the light back on it and making a custom dome for it.
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    fancy photo
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  16. msalamanca
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    Some rot in the front of the fender. on the pass side
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    and I didnt upload the patch I am making for it.


    this a few dings dents and creases
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  17. msalamanca
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    this is kinda where I am at, alot of welding, grinding, hammer and dolly work. The noise level slows me down as I work full time. Cant wait to get some filler on it and start block sanding, I can do that all night.

    Have a three day weekend coming up starting tomorrow so I have alot planned
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  18. msalamanca
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    Thanks. I have alot more pics, some are redundant.
     
  19. msalamanca
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    Thanks, hopefully it will be done soon.
     
  20. msalamanca
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    Thank you. Mike cant wait either, its been in my garage for a while :/
     
  21. msalamanca
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    You should totally do it. I love the look of them.
    HAHA You can learn from my mistakes, I know I have on this :/
    Thanks bud!!!!
    Yeah those are the ones I cut out. My shoebox is going to get a good pounding soon, its been awhile.

    Thanks, so much more to learn I love this stuff.
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  22. blown240
    Joined: Aug 2, 2005
    Posts: 1,814

    blown240
    Member
    from So-cal

    What!!! You cut my car apart??!!!??!??!?!?!?!
     
  23. msalamanca
    Joined: May 25, 2011
    Posts: 526

    msalamanca
    Member

    Yeah, it needed a bigger rear for me
     
  24. tinmann
    Joined: Nov 11, 2005
    Posts: 1,588

    tinmann
    Member

    Very nice fab work and an excellent job of posting the results. I plan to add those same shoebox tail light accents to my hulk......... [​IMG]
     
  25. msalamanca
    Joined: May 25, 2011
    Posts: 526

    msalamanca
    Member

    For sure, I would mock them up and see how they look with the skirts.
     
  26. koolkemp
    Joined: May 7, 2004
    Posts: 6,005

    koolkemp
    Member

    Nice metalwork !


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  27. GassersGarage
    Joined: Jul 1, 2007
    Posts: 4,726

    GassersGarage
    Member

    I like it, nice work.
     
  28. black 62
    Joined: Jul 12, 2012
    Posts: 1,895

    black 62
    Member
    from arkansas

    very..like...wow ---such great looking work---can't wait for more pics
     
  29. motoandy
    Joined: Sep 19, 2007
    Posts: 3,334

    motoandy
    Member
    from MB, SC

    Love the rear fender treatment. Nice work and please keep up the nice work posting. Cool build.
     
  30. no.scar.no.story
    Joined: May 6, 2012
    Posts: 325

    no.scar.no.story
    Member

    badass...all the way.
     

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