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  1. 64 DODGE 440
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    See post 7235.
     
  2. jimdillon
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    Looks like a scale to me and as to the tires, is there a possibility that some crafty type may have filled the tires with something other than air and then after putting on a lighter set of tire/wheel combo? Nah they didn't cheat back then, what I am thinking of-Jim
     
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    The club from Catalunya organising the Penya Rhin Grand Prix was called the Penya Rhin, not the RMCC. I believe the RACC and RMCC took over from the Penya Rhin some time in the fifties or sixties.
     
  6. Michael Ferner
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    Isn't that Bernd in the Alfa? How come? :confused:
     
  7. Racer12
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    I purchased some items that once belonged to J.L. Mannix. Tried a quick online search and came up with nothing. I thought someone on here could help. He was a car owner in the 20's and 30's at Indianapolis. I hope to be able to show some pictures soon!

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    Michael,

    here's the caption that was connected with this image. maybe you could translate for us...??


    Schnappschuss fürs Familienalbum: Rosemeyer im Alfa Romeo von Nuvolari.

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    Here you have a quick translation:


    "Snapshot for the family album: Rosemeyer into Nuvolari's Alfa Romeo "






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  14. Manel
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    Vll G.P. Penya Rhin, Montjuïc Park, Barcelona. June 1936.
    Rosemeyer tests the cockpit of Nuvolari new 12-cylinder A-R. After some 300 km of battle, the little Mantuan and the boy of Remagen crossed the line separated by one second. The lap record established by Nuvolari lasted almost 30 years.
    the Spanish Civil War broke few weeks later.
     
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  18. Michael Ferner
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    Thanks for the explanations!



    I'm sure that's Elli, not Ernst! :D
     
  19. Michael Ferner
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    Yes, VERRRY interested!!

    Mannix was, apparently, from Indianapolis, and the (co-) owner of the Buehrig/Duesenberg, perhaps the most stylish of the "junk era" Indy Cars ("double-barrelled Duesenberg"). Any info and pictures MOST WELCOME!!!
     
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    I went through my Fox INDY 500 book and couldn't find any photo or mention of the car. :(
     
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    I'm sure that's Elli, not Ernst! :D[/QUOTE]

    I'm afraid neither of them: She is actually the lovely and "Kay" PETRE on Ernst Von Delius Auto-Union C she briefly tested during the the South African races held in january, 1936 were she drove her 1.5 Riley with mixed results.
    According the gossip's period, Kay and Bernd Rosemeyer became intimates there however many years later Elly Beinhorn, the
    brave aviatrix epouse of Bernd, declared the she didn't dare to flirt with Bernd because the fearless Canadian soon realized had no chances.
     
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    Interesting patent indeed: Please read the info found in the net:

    This Lubricating System shows much more than a simple oil pump and passageways! It shows a novel approach to OHC actuation. At first glance, we see a cam #28, centrally mounted with some rather long cam followers. But upon further examination, you will see that this one camshaft operates the inlet and exhaust valves for BOTH cylinders of a V engine. We’ll start with the inlet, shown on the left #24. The cam lifts a roller follower #32, which directly actuates the inlet valve. The inlet plenum is #26, valve seat is #19. To operate the exhaust valves, the cam depresses rocker #33, which lifts rocker 48, both shown in the right side of the view.
    Fans of the Rudge radial 4 valve motors of the 1930s will immediately glean what is happening with those rockers. While Rudge used the same idea to turn the mechanical motion into a different plane than the primary rockers, the idea is the same.
    Mr. Brown had some good ideas with this patent, including dual spark plugs per cylinder #16, and roller bearings on all rockers #46. The roller cam followers #53 help to decrease wear. He also wisely shared the shafts for the inlet and ex rockers #31, used water cooling and enclosed the valve gear to keep oil in and dust out. But the big holes in the rockers give away one of the downsides to this arrangement. Mass. These long rockers and secondary rockers have a lot of mass that must be accelerated to lift the valve, stopped, and then accelerated in the other direction to close the valve. Since one of the biggest advantages of using OHC is that the mass of the valve train is minimized, this layout must not have been ideal. Drilling those holes was a good start, but those long secondary rockers look like they must have flexed a bit at high rpms.
     
  23. Michael Ferner
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    You have to check the non-starter pics, the car made it onto the grid only once.

    1931 Norske Larson (DNQ)
    1932 Danny Day (DNQ)
    1933 Mark Billman (QP 21, retired, fatal accident)
    1934 Sam Hoffman (DNQ)
    1937 Luther Johnson/Overton Phillips (crashed in practice, burned down)


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    So this would have been a different Mannix than the one Bunny Phillips crashed in 1937, correct?
     
  25. Michael Ferner
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    I'm afraid neither of them: She is actually the lovely and "Kay" PETRE on Ernst Von Delius Auto-Union C she briefly tested during the the South African races held in january, 1936 were she drove her 1.5 Riley with mixed results.
    According the gossip's period, Kay and Bernd Rosemeyer became intimates there however many years later Elly Beinhorn, the brave aviatrix epouse of Bernd, declared the she didn't dare to flirt with Bernd because the fearless Canadian soon realized had no chances.[/QUOTE]

    Thnx for the info!

    :)
     
  26. Michael Ferner
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    I believe it was the same car, but heavily modified.
     
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    Todays offerings..........


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